Recent Topics
Old wall furnace
by Jarlaxle
08/26/16 02:55 PM
automatic side folding mirror squeak
by Grambo
08/26/16 02:11 PM
Anybody own a new Mazda 6?
by AirgunSavant
08/26/16 01:58 PM
Do Employees Of Car Companies Get New Cars Cheap ?
by crazyoildude
08/26/16 01:54 PM
Amsoil SVG 75W90, 50K, 04 Duramax 196K
by dhellman12
08/26/16 01:53 PM
When an orifice is needed & when it is not (long)
by ryaneirich
08/26/16 01:38 PM
UT-Austin Response to CC
by sleddriver
08/26/16 01:36 PM
Grease darkening quickly on bicycle bearings
by Wheel
08/26/16 12:54 PM
Just replaced valve cover gasket
by JeepWJ19
08/26/16 11:48 AM
You Got A Merv People!
by AirgunSavant
08/26/16 11:17 AM
Total Quartz 9000 Energy 0W30 - Synthetic or not?
by Seweryn
08/26/16 10:32 AM
Options for Cadillac DTS with the Northstar Leak
by Ddub
08/26/16 10:21 AM
Newest Members
rgmbedzi3, wildkid2008, dccode, dromonk, sledhead1
58930 Registered Users
Who's Online
97 registered (1JZ_E46, adamrc, Al, AirgunSavant, AlaskaMike, 2015_PSD, 10 invisible), 1747 Guests and 33 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
58930 Members
66 Forums
253588 Topics
4162827 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#2279967 - 06/05/11 06:21 PM New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230
glum Offline


Registered: 02/03/11
Posts: 820
Loc: Charlotte, NC
I haven't done a brake job since the 1980s. My last one was probably a drum brake job on a GM vehicle. Those were fun! Anyway...

My 1999 M-B C230 needs new rear brakes--badly. From what I gather, ceramic is the way to go for the pads. I'd rather replace the rotors than try getting by with having them turned by some auto parts store guy.

Can anyone help me narrow down the choices? Good brands, things to look for, things to avoid--that sort of thing? The difference in prices even among parts that seem identical in quality and composition (from looking at descriptions) is shocking.
_________________________
Wish I could say it's been nice, BITOG.

Top
#2279975 - 06/05/11 06:34 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 18860
Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
http://www.MercedesPartsCenter.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=215720

I priced out a set of genuine rear pads and genuine rear rotors from that site. With shipping, it is only $170. On most European cars, you usually replace the rotors and pads together.

If the original equipment parts are reasonably priced, which they usually are if you purchase from a dealership that sells parts online, then I always go with them since they are guaranteed to work and deliver predictable performance.

Ceramic pads that you find in stores are best suited for cars that were never high-performance to begin with. I have read that installing ceramic pads on higher performance European cars, are a hit/miss. Ceramic pads from major brands are usually tuned for super long life, low dust and low performance. I would instead, rather install pads that were designed specifically for the vehicle and will deliver excellent stopping performance.
_________________________
11 Prius - 133k - M1 EP 0w20/OE
07 Accord 2.4 - 112k - M1 5w20/Fram Ultra Filter
10 Altima 3.5 - 35k - M1 EP 5w30/FU
92 Previa - 160k - Chevron 5w30/Wix

Top
#2279990 - 06/05/11 06:55 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
HTSS_TR Online   content


Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 19335
Loc: Lake Forest, CA
No shop will turn Mercedes rotor. If the rotor can not be re-use then you need to replace. For pads you want to stay with these German made: Pagid, ATE, Jurid, Meyle or Textar.
_________________________
'00 MB E430
'04 Honda S2000
'06 Volvo V70
'14 Honda Accord LX
"Throwing food away is like stealing it from the poor and hungry" Pope Francis

Top
#2279992 - 06/05/11 06:58 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 18860
Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
Just remember that the Pagid, Meyle, Textar, etc "german" brands are really just the Raybestos, Centric, Bendix, etc of the German market. When you buy those german pads from worldpac, they are sometimes the aftermarket version of the OE supplier's brake product-- no guarantees that it'll function identically to the Genuine Mercedes product. I think a lot of people get confused when they see a Pagid or Textar product at worldpac and believe that it is the identical dealer product in a different box-- not always the case.
_________________________
11 Prius - 133k - M1 EP 0w20/OE
07 Accord 2.4 - 112k - M1 5w20/Fram Ultra Filter
10 Altima 3.5 - 35k - M1 EP 5w30/FU
92 Previa - 160k - Chevron 5w30/Wix

Top
#2280012 - 06/05/11 07:25 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
AstroTurf Offline


Registered: 12/28/09
Posts: 532
Loc: Richmond, VA
I second or third the Genuine Factory replacement products.

But, If I were looking for another quality product, I would look at Hawk.

Jim

Top
#2280019 - 06/05/11 07:37 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
Dan55 Offline


Registered: 06/07/08
Posts: 800
Loc: jersey
If you were happy with the performance of the OE stick with them.
_________________________
2016 Lexus NX200T 07 Fit Sport 05 Mazda 3S

Top
#2280042 - 06/05/11 07:56 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
Astro14 Offline


Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 6752
Loc: Virginia Beach
I've had good luck with both Hawk and Akebono for pads. Brembo for rotors (stock replacement...nothing fancy...) - with the mileage and the typical MB specifications for minimum rotor thickness, I would simply replace the rotors vs. trying to turn them...

And the ceramic Akebonos on both Volvos are great for rotor wear (none), dust (none) and longevity. My wife's XC has nearly 50K on the pads - and they are still over 50% thickness. There was no loss in braking performance either...they cost a bit more, but are worth it.
_________________________
32 Packard 15W40
90 4Runner 10W40 Edge
02 Volvo V70 T5 0W40 M1
02 Volvo V70 XC 5W40 PU
05 MB S600 0W40 M1
16 Tundra 1794 TGMO

Top
#2280058 - 06/05/11 08:08 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
FowVay Offline


Registered: 06/02/02
Posts: 2418
Loc: Southeastern USA
If you can find them I would buy Balo rotors and ATE pads for this application.

Top
#2280097 - 06/05/11 08:45 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: FowVay]
disturban Offline


Registered: 03/15/09
Posts: 186
Loc: michigan
Hawk pads FTW with OEM rotors right from the MB dealer!!!

Top
#2280122 - 06/05/11 09:15 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8187
Loc: Florida
I never have comebacks using whatever high grade NAPA pads and rotors fit a Benz.

Forget about machining a rotor on any German car. They wear so quickly that even if your rotor is above spec now, it will be below spec midway into the life of the replacement pads.

Also, low dust pads only go so far to reduce brake dust from a German car. Those fast wearing rotors contribute to more to brake dust than pad material itself.
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top
#2280145 - 06/05/11 09:28 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: artificialist]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 18860
Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
Originally Posted By: artificialist
I never have comebacks using whatever high grade NAPA pads and rotors fit a Benz.

Define "high grade." NAPA Safety Stop or NAPA Ultra Premium?
_________________________
11 Prius - 133k - M1 EP 0w20/OE
07 Accord 2.4 - 112k - M1 5w20/Fram Ultra Filter
10 Altima 3.5 - 35k - M1 EP 5w30/FU
92 Previa - 160k - Chevron 5w30/Wix

Top
#2280278 - 06/06/11 12:12 AM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
Spartuss Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 2078
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland
OEM if you are satisfied with the performance and price. If you choose to save a little, I have heard that Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads and Zimmerman rotors are great.
_________________________
Was once a BITOG addict!

Top
#2280377 - 06/06/11 07:43 AM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: The Critic]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8187
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: artificialist
I never have comebacks using whatever high grade NAPA pads and rotors fit a Benz.

Define "high grade." NAPA Safety Stop or NAPA Ultra Premium?

Ultra Premium or Adaptive One, whatever one is availible at the time.
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top
#2280609 - 06/06/11 12:30 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
PandaBear Offline


Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 13350
Loc: Silicon Valley
It depends on how important "Genuine OEM" or "German Engineering" are to you.

There are lots of brake pads that give you same or even better performance than the Mercedes OEM pads rotor for less, much less. Those high performance street pads with FF to GG ratings are usually sufficient unless you track your car, and if you do track your car, the OEM Mercedes pads probably aren't sufficient anyways.

Usually, OEM will have less noise and dust to avoid warranty works.


Edited by PandaBear (06/06/11 12:32 PM)
_________________________
"You keep asking questions PandaBear and you'll end up a vegetarian like my wife" - Camu Mahubah

Top
#2280650 - 06/06/11 01:22 PM Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 [Re: glum]
volvos_rock Offline


Registered: 04/23/11
Posts: 143
Loc: PA
Ill second Astro on the Akebono pads and the brembo direct replacements. Just did the front of the XC for $200, including new ATE hoses and a tube of ATE lube. Ive also had good luck with ATE premium one rotors and heard good things about Zimmerman rotors. Not the area you want to go cheap on wink. Check out FCPGroton.com.
_________________________
Volvo: 09 S80
Mercedes-Benz: 16 Metris
Chevrolet: 98 K1500
Pontiac: 65 Lemans convt

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >