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#2190467 - 03/06/11 08:38 AM E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out
BBDartCA Offline


Registered: 04/04/10
Posts: 439
Loc: Washington State
Recently rented a Flex Fuel Chevy Suburban. Noticed after a couple hours of highway driving it had already bured thru 1/2 tank of gas. Did not take much more time to get tho close to E. "What a pig" I thought when spending 80 buks to fill up. After having the car a week, I noticed every since the 1st fill up, it got much better mileage. When returning the car to Enterprise, I mentioned what happened and they said sometimes when they fill up the cars customers return near empty, they use E85 because its cheaper. The problem is when they use E85 to save them so dough, it screws up the next renter's gas bill due to the worse economy.
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#2190483 - 03/06/11 08:54 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 23546
Loc: ME
Wife's gotten vehicles from Enterprise with 3/8 tank, they say oh just bring it back with 3/8.

Not sure if they just don't care because she has a corporate account or what. I think "internal use" like shuttling the cars around, letting employees take them home etc, is the reason for lower than full gas.

I can't hate too badly, as e85 is a legit fuel for a flex fuel vehicle. You can always make your last fillup e85 before returning it..

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#2190500 - 03/06/11 09:10 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 20752
Loc: NY
That's interesting, next time I rent a car I'll have to remember that. If I rent a flex fuel car I'll return it with E85 in the tank.
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#2190504 - 03/06/11 09:14 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
steveh Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 692
Loc: wisconsin
Makes you wonder if people fill up and return a non flex fuel car with E85 to save money.

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#2190515 - 03/06/11 09:19 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 33283
Loc: New Jersey
If you can find e85...

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#2190545 - 03/06/11 10:01 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: steveh]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 8980
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: steveh
Makes you wonder if people fill up and return a non flex fuel car with E85 to save money.


Is it any wonder so many people are suspicious of used rental cars when shopping for a vehicle?
I could see some people doing this.
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#2190574 - 03/06/11 10:27 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: fdcg27]
BBDartCA Offline


Registered: 04/04/10
Posts: 439
Loc: Washington State
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: steveh
Makes you wonder if people fill up and return a non flex fuel car with E85 to save money.


Is it any wonder so many people are suspicious of used rental cars when shopping for a vehicle?
I could see some people doing this.


In the corn belt where E85 is common, its not uncommon to sign a special waiver when renting the car stating if you run E85 in a non-flex fuel vehicle, you will be paying for all repairs. With e85 being so cheap its easy for a renter to say "[censored]" when putting the cheap stuff in a rental's tank to save a few bucks.
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#2190605 - 03/06/11 10:58 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
dishdude Offline


Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 3215
Loc: Phoenix
The last rental I had was a 2011 Avenger with a nice yellow gas cap and a FlexFuel badge on the decklid. Of course I filled it up with E85 before returning it!

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#2190614 - 03/06/11 11:05 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: eljefino]
opus1 Offline


Registered: 12/13/04
Posts: 1956
Loc: Chicago Area
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Wife's gotten vehicles from Enterprise with 3/8 tank, they say oh just bring it back with 3/8.

Not sure if they just don't care because she has a corporate account or what. I think "internal use" like shuttling the cars around, letting employees take them home etc, is the reason for lower than full gas.

I can't hate too badly, as e85 is a legit fuel for a flex fuel vehicle. You can always make your last fillup e85 before returning it..
I rented from Enterprise once, personal (non-corporate) account and I got the car with 3/4 of a tank. This was noted on the rental agreement and I was told I had to have at least 3/4 of a tank on the gauge when I brought it back. The only other place I rented from that worked like this was a local rental place when I lived in Indiana.
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#2228048 - 04/10/11 12:51 PM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
El_Schaf Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 176
Loc: Michigan, USA
I did the same thing with the last rental I had, last summer. I ran as much regular gas until as I could (until about "e" on the last day), and filled it with e85. I considered it being a smart consumer. There was probably e85 in it when I got it i figured.
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#2232554 - 04/14/11 08:38 PM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
morris Offline


Registered: 08/24/08
Posts: 3653
Loc: ks, wichita
i worked for enterprise in 2008, we didnt have the e-85 trouble.

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#2234018 - 04/16/11 12:09 PM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: fdcg27]
TFB1 Offline


Registered: 09/03/10
Posts: 2622
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: steveh
Makes you wonder if people fill up and return a non flex fuel car with E85 to save money.


Is it any wonder so many people are suspicious of used rental cars when shopping for a vehicle?
I could see some people doing this.


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#2236196 - 04/18/11 07:24 PM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
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Registered: 09/26/10
Posts: 2988
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: BBDartCA
With e85 being so cheap....

Define cheap. In Houston, there is only a $0.30 difference and this is not enough to justify the loss of MPG. The gap closed between E-85 and E-10 some time ago. It was a $0.50 difference and that was enough with my $0.10 discount making it $0.60 difference.

What is the cost in your area for E-85?
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#2253184 - 05/06/11 04:11 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
Mr_Joe Offline


Registered: 11/16/09
Posts: 346
Loc: Wisconsin
Around here E85 & regular gas is about the same price. Even with a rental you won't save much going with e85 on that last fill up before returning. Hardly anyone buys e85,except the unknowing ones.

A Winter ago I was at the station in the afternoon that it had snowed lightly in the morning. There was not one track at the e85 pump. The attendant confirmed hardly anybody bought it. At the time it may of been 10 cents cheaper than regular.

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#2253464 - 05/06/11 11:21 AM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
tmorris1 Offline


Registered: 07/15/03
Posts: 2032
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: BBDartCA
Recently rented a Flex Fuel Chevy Suburban. Noticed after a couple hours of highway driving it had already bured thru 1/2 tank of gas. Did not take much more time to get tho close to E. "What a pig" I thought when spending 80 buks to fill up. After having the car a week, I noticed every since the 1st fill up, it got much better mileage. When returning the car to Enterprise, I mentioned what happened and they said sometimes when they fill up the cars customers return near empty, they use E85 because its cheaper. The problem is when they use E85 to save them so dough, it screws up the next renter's gas bill due to the worse economy.

They are a pig with regular gas as well. so it probably is only 15% worse mileage or so.

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#3043541 - 06/24/13 02:30 PM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: BBDartCA]
javacontour Offline


Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 7381
Loc: Illinois
The Grand Caravan I just rented had the flex fuel badge and the yellow gas cap. A station that sold e85 was on the way to the return so I filled it from just under 1/2 a tank with e85.
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#3043595 - 06/24/13 03:21 PM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: eljefino]
DBMaster Offline


Registered: 09/18/12
Posts: 1947
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Wife's gotten vehicles from Enterprise with 3/8 tank, they say oh just bring it back with 3/8.

Not sure if they just don't care because she has a corporate account or what. I think "internal use" like shuttling the cars around, letting employees take them home etc, is the reason for lower than full gas.


I think it's because the majority of renters, attempting to return the car with "at least" as much fuel as it left with will end up returning it with more. That's a small plus for Enterprise and those little pluses add up. I do not like it.
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#3293841 - 02/25/14 12:06 PM Re: E85 and Flex Fuel Rental Cars - Watch Out [Re: fdcg27]
Sonic Offline


Registered: 03/07/11
Posts: 254
Loc: Midwest
Originally Posted By: fdcg27


Is it any wonder so many people are suspicious of used rental cars when shopping for a vehicle?
I could see some people doing this.


Right! A while back I was looking at a used vehicle. When the sales manager came over to where I was sitting and told me it had been a rental what he saw next was a vapor trail from where my rear had been to the door. Cuz I was GONE!

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