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#2124722 - 01/02/11 01:40 PM ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS****
Andrew MKZ Offline


Registered: 10/04/09
Posts: 2811
Loc: USA
I'm Finally done!

Here are the results!


Code:
  Oil         Times used   Percentage
Pennzoil        346	   25.40%
Mobil 1	        263        19.30%
Vavoline	169        12.40%
Castrol	        131	    9.60%
QS	         97         7.10%
Motorcraft       68 	    5.00%
Rotella	         41	    3.00%
super tech	 31         2.20%
Amsoil	         30         2.20%
chevron          26         1.90%
havoline         18	    1.30%
Napa	         18         1.30%
Royal Purple     15	    1.10%
Schaeffers	 14	    1.00%
Toyota	         14	    1.00%
redline	         10         0.70%
petro canada	 10         0.70%
o'Rielly	  7         0.50%
peak	          7         0.50%
kendall	          7         0.50%
motomaster	  6         0.40%
trop artic	  4         0.30%
Motul	          4         0.30%
Honda	          3         0.20%
Carquest	  2	    0.10%
RLI	          2         0.10%
Esso	          2         0.10%
76	          2         0.10%
liqui moly	  2         0.10%
exxon	          2         0.10%
ace	          2         0.10%
Eco power	  2         0.10%
Cam2	          1         Trace
costal	          1         Trace
Brad penn	  1         Trace 
wolfs head	  1         Trace   
     



There was a total of 1359 oil changes.

As far as syn or dino & oil filter used, sorry. I didn't have time.


Edited by Bill in Utah (01/02/11 03:21 PM)
Edit Reason: fixed table formatting
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#2124724 - 01/02/11 01:44 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
cos Offline


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Nice work - Thanks!
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#2124725 - 01/02/11 01:45 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Thank you for the hard work!
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#2124729 - 01/02/11 01:48 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Doug Hillary Offline


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Hi,
DT466E - Great effort - thanks

Keep the DT466 going - great power plant series!
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#2124735 - 01/02/11 01:52 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Thanks for the awesome hard work!
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#2124742 - 01/02/11 02:03 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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#2124830 - 01/02/11 03:57 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
crinkles Offline


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Nice! is shell included in Pennzoil?

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#2124831 - 01/02/11 04:02 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: crinkles]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Originally Posted By: crinkles
Nice! is shell included in Pennzoil?

For whatever reason, he has Rotella listed separately, and that's Shell, too.
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#2124833 - 01/02/11 04:03 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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i appreciate the hard work!! but would have liked to seen labels separated, ie edge from castrol etc
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#2124942 - 01/02/11 06:05 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Capa Offline


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Thanks for the work. If you have time and the data perhaps you can divide the Dino from synthetics.
Perhaps BITOG isn't that different from the rest of the world. I'd bet that if the numbers are crunched Pennzoil is the top dino and Mobil the top synthetic on BITOG.

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#2124955 - 01/02/11 06:12 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Capa]
daman Offline


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Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..
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#2124973 - 01/02/11 06:22 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Slippery_Pete Offline


Registered: 12/01/09
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Thanks for all your hard work.
I was hoping to see redline a bit higher up.


Edited by Slippery_Pete (01/02/11 06:23 PM)
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#2125006 - 01/02/11 06:53 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Interesting list

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#2125079 - 01/02/11 07:55 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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The top 10 fell just about where I figured they would. Thanks for taking the time, you should tally them up for 2011 too!
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#2125105 - 01/02/11 08:23 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Very cool, thanks man.
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#2125198 - 01/02/11 10:02 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
deven Offline


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I would have never for the life of me thought that Pennzoil would win out in this forum. shocked hide

Thanks Troy for taking the time to put it together!!! Says a lot about you and your passion for motor oil!
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#2125212 - 01/02/11 10:19 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: deven]
fsskier Offline


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Posts: 778
Loc: Iowa
"Pennzoil" would have included both dino and synthetic oil sales? Not surprising at all if that is the case......
Pennzoil sells lots of both!!

It would be interesting to know the breakdown of Pennzoil sales.... but our scribe is probably exhausted!

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#2125344 - 01/03/11 05:23 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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All, yes Shell is included in Pennzoil, but I listed Rotella seperate because it is supposed to be used for a different application.

I was suprised to see SuperTech up as high as it was shrug

I do not have the data, but I can tell you ALOT of the oils WERE synthetics, and a P1 filter was common, along with a Napa.
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#2125346 - 01/03/11 05:33 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: daman]
Andrew MKZ Offline


Registered: 10/04/09
Posts: 2811
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
DT466E - Great effort - thanks

Keep the DT466 going - great power plant series!

Thanks! Sadly, it has to go after this year(age limit, who knew shrug), no telling what I will get next. frown
Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..

Do you know how glad I am all 30,000 didn't post? LOL
There was no voting.......all this came from Jan 1, 2010 to the end of the year on the Post your latest oil change thread.


Edited by DT466E_bus (01/03/11 05:34 AM)
Edit Reason: my bus has to go :(
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#2125362 - 01/03/11 06:39 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Nice work!
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#2125365 - 01/03/11 06:46 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 07/03/05
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We should make this a yearly thing, it will tell if the favorites change from year to year and probably the effectiveness of the oil bigger oil companies advertising budgets. If we included grades of oil dino or synthetic we could see if there is a swing toward "thicker or thinner" oil. If dino or synthetic is gaining popluarity. Lots of info.

The only thing that surprised me was I would have thought Castrol and Valvoline would have switched positions on the list. I would have though Castrol sold more oil that Valvoline. Oh well,

Nice job! Thanks!
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#2125409 - 01/03/11 07:57 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Loc: Clinton Twp. MI
thanks, wow Sopus products all together = 35.5%
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#2125465 - 01/03/11 09:22 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: bradepb]
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Registered: 11/12/09
Posts: 646
Loc: MA
i, too, would like to see it go another year. i'd post this time.

like others have said, thank-you for doing this. there is so much data on this site. it is nice to see some of it distilled here. Great job!
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#2125511 - 01/03/11 10:24 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 10/04/09
Posts: 2811
Loc: USA
Yall make me feel good blush

As for the Castrol/vavoline, after all the BP stuff went on I am not suprised.
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#2125526 - 01/03/11 10:35 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
daman Offline


Registered: 09/23/06
Posts: 10486
Loc: Bad Axe, MI
Originally Posted By: DT466E_bus
Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
DT466E - Great effort - thanks

Keep the DT466 going - great power plant series!

Thanks! Sadly, it has to go after this year(age limit, who knew shrug), no telling what I will get next. frown
Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..

Do you know how glad I am all 30,000 didn't post? LOL
There was no voting.......all this came from Jan 1, 2010 to the end of the year on the Post your latest oil change thread.

I bet lol
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#2125889 - 01/03/11 03:50 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Definatly.
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#2126009 - 01/03/11 05:31 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Capa Offline


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Posts: 1213
Loc: Oklahoma
You mean definitely, unless of course you meant defiantly. smile

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#2126169 - 01/03/11 07:38 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 3735
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I am surprised Quaker State did better then Motorcraft...But it's all good.
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#2126179 - 01/03/11 07:47 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46694
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Man that was a lot of work. Thanks!!

I was a bit confused (easy to do) - so the data is only from the "latest change" thread? Somehow I was thinking the whole site....YIKES!!

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#2127663 - 01/04/11 09:47 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: CROWNVIC4LIFE]
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me too i like motorcraft

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#2130141 - 01/06/11 09:34 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: daman]
BigJohn Offline


Registered: 06/21/08
Posts: 792
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..



Well, in all my oil changes for 2010, I only posted once.

But heck....that is how statistics work. Those that choose to reply....are how the numbers are crunched.

I really appreciate the effort and am a bit amazed at the results, to be honest.



Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
I am surprised Quaker State did better then Motorcraft...But it's all good.



I am not surprised at all. I am 42 years old and three months ago I purchased my first quarts of Motorcraft. I think it is awesome oil, but in irony....it is the oil that was in my 4Runners engine when it blew!!!! I still have four quarts and will use it with confidence in my daughters Yaris.
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#2130552 - 01/07/11 09:13 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Wow, great job and thank you for all your hard work!
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#2130884 - 01/07/11 02:16 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 1458
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Wow, I'm surprised to see Valvoline (my current favorite) in the top 3, beating Castrol in the process. Interesting.

Thanks for putting this together.

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#2131056 - 01/07/11 04:55 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Andrew MKZ Offline


Registered: 10/04/09
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Thanks for the kind words guys.
I was suprised to see Supertech where it was.......
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#2132189 - 01/08/11 03:58 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Ken42 Offline


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Gureat job thanks.
I am not supprised about the Pennzoil (Penzoil for Johnny)
With the Most excellent Q&A they provided.
But I am supprised to see Amsoil down so low.
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#2132767 - 01/09/11 07:31 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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The top 5 are readily available at mass market retail chain stores. Not surprising the results given this is a mostly DIY forum.
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#2132773 - 01/09/11 07:37 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Bluestream]
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Originally Posted By: Bluestream
The top 5 are readily available at mass market retail chain stores. Not surprising the results given this is a mostly DIY forum.


Really not surprising when the results were only taken from one thread. Not taking anything away from Troybuilt's work, but you have to realize there is nothing really statistically valid unless you have some caveats.

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#2133558 - 01/09/11 10:56 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Ken42]
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Originally Posted By: Ken42
.....But I am supprised to see Amsoil down so low.



I'm not. Too hard to get and too expensive. Additionally, the big boys have now released oil that rivals Amsoils claims....and they are sold at WalMart.
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#2133624 - 01/10/11 01:29 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Exactly.
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#2133720 - 01/10/11 06:38 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Pablo Offline


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Sure. Hard to get. Expensive. Whatever. Let's not discuss that here.

But 30 users? Gary, O2man, and I have more customers than that from BITOG......but again back to the poll.

The question in that thread is what? "What oil did you choose for your latest oil change?". Most of my customers are extended OCI people. I don't think many, if any, change under 6 month intervals - most go 12 months or so. Think about it a minute. Typical BITOGIAN fashion, Ken42 and others aren't thinking it through and seeing your good work as "What oil is the most POPULAR?" It doesn't work that way.....these are two very different questions. Plus like any voluntary poll, you have to factor in the people who took the time to answer, etc.

Guys - use your critical thinking and logic skills. Along with a good heart, it will make you a better person.

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#2146796 - 01/22/11 02:51 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: daman]
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Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..


The sample size is large enough.

When they ask for the American public's opinion on their President, they don't poll all 230 million adults. They don't need to. When they do a study on the effectiveness of a drug, the sample size is typically 100-200. They don't have the entire population of the world in the study.

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#2146797 - 01/22/11 02:59 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: tonycarguy]
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Originally Posted By: tonycarguy
Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..


The sample size is large enough.

When they ask for the American public's opinion on their President, they don't poll all 230 million adults. They don't need to. When they do a study on the effectiveness of a drug, the sample size is typically 100-200. They don't have the entire population of the world in the study.




There's more than just sample size, the sample has to be representative of the whole. I'd say many on here don't post about their oil changes (shocking considering what site it is).
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#2149970 - 01/24/11 08:07 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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i would use amsoil more often but its just hard to find in stores at a good price so i use penz

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#2150931 - 01/25/11 07:25 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: BigJohn]
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Hi
Did Toyota finally replace your engine free of charge?

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#2150945 - 01/25/11 07:34 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: CROWNVIC4LIFE]
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Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
I am surprised Quaker State did better then Motorcraft...But it's all good.


Some folks like me like sludge grin2
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#2151456 - 01/26/11 10:08 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Ken42]
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Originally Posted By: Ken42
Gureat job thanks.
I am not supprised about the Pennzoil (Penzoil for Johnny)
With the Most excellent Q&A they provided.
But I am supprised to see Amsoil down so low.


I'm not.... people that buy Amsoil, Redline, Rotella, Shaeffer's, etc. are probably going to be running longer OCIs than people running PYB or PP, thus doing fewer changes per year.
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#2166759 - 02/09/11 10:10 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: 440Magnum]
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Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: Ken42
Gureat job thanks.
I am not supprised about the Pennzoil (Penzoil for Johnny)
With the Most excellent Q&A they provided.
But I am supprised to see Amsoil down so low.


I'm not.... people that buy Amsoil, Redline, Rotella, Shaeffer's, etc. are probably going to be running longer OCIs than people running PYB or PP, thus doing fewer changes per year.



+1...and is Formula Shell included in the Pennzoil numbers?

I'd also say not to count the same poster using the same brand oil in the same year etc.
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#2169279 - 02/12/11 04:35 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Top 5 were no surprise, being the major brands that are the most trusted. Also no surprise that SuperTech was the most popular store brand. Looks like a pretty accurate survey to me.

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#2169547 - 02/12/11 10:34 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: RPMster]
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Wow! Dind't know that people where using ST oil out there laugh . That's good that Castro is at top too! shocked
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#2169708 - 02/13/11 06:21 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: ltslimjim]
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Originally Posted By: itslimjim


+1...and is Formula Shell included in the Pennzoil numbers?

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#2169710 - 02/13/11 06:21 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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yes it was
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#2169979 - 02/13/11 12:27 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Thanks for the effort and hard work!

I am confused as to why not count the UOAs for the year and assume that the most UOA'd oil is the most popular?


Is it easy for the mod's to give a count of UOAs from new year to year end? ( new threads )

Still enough, thanks for the thread!

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#2177133 - 02/21/11 08:50 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Ironic! I just shifted from Mobil 1 to Peak--obviously because of price issues. Peak is new on the Puerto Rico motor oil market but, since it meets the "SM" classification I went for it ($4.28/qt., including tax). Whenever you can research the Peak brand, please post whatever you find out, "BITOG"!
THANK YOU KIND, dude! BTW, M1's price has skyrocketed to $7.48/qt., with tax. I do 4 vehicles (wife's, mother's, sister's and my baby, an '04 flawless 350Z), so I tried to $ave $ome moolah...I hope I won't regret it in the future...
Thanks again!

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#2185785 - 03/01/11 03:35 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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WOW! thanks for the info...
I to am really surprised Pennzoil is at the top... That just happens to be one of the cheaper in price found at wally world.

even tho I have heard some use the SS brand, I just don`t get that fuzzy feeling about it. just assuming walmarts buying practices are true for the oil as well, what are they leaving out of it?

so far since I`ve been away from using Amsoil, I have been using Valvoline, Castrol, and M1...


Edited by PaleRider (03/01/11 03:35 PM)
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#2215383 - 03/28/11 11:17 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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LOL that's pretty cool. the top 3 is what i use and in that order too.

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#2246524 - 04/28/11 11:01 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Thanks for putting this list together, I can only imagine how much work it had to have taken!

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#2251926 - 05/04/11 10:42 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Thanks for all your hard work in putting together the results. No major surprises....all quality oils.

Hey what do you know....my 1,000th post to BITOG....how appropriate for it to appear here!


Edited by mongo161 (05/04/11 10:44 PM)

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#2253167 - 05/06/11 02:50 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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I can't stand pennzoil,sorry. I had 2 cars that i used that stuff in and it went through more oil,changed to castrol and the problem went away..very odd.The cars did not use oil until pennzoil went in.
I'm a castrol oil or quaker state person myself but i bought some shell 5w30 on a great sale price.
FRAM filters only.
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#2259312 - 05/12/11 07:12 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Funny how I originally used conventional Castrol oil, switched to Mobil 1, then Valvoline synthetic and now I use Pennzoil Ultra. Almost up the chart!

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#2290177 - 06/17/11 12:38 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Is there a 2011 poll?
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#2302762 - 06/30/11 06:16 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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I wonder how these figures match advertising budgets. In other words how important is advertising when you are selling a very technically orientated product to a market that has their interests in other areas.
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#2353116 - 08/21/11 12:54 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Thanks for performing a huge task. A lot of suggestions from posters about how it could have been improved; how many of them are volunteering to do the work.

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#2357776 - 08/25/11 08:10 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: mainstreet98]
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DT466 won't be here to read this ... he was essentially banned.
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#2359570 - 08/27/11 05:20 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Promotional budget matters more than advertising budget, and SOPUS has not been shy about spending money on MIRs to promote their products.
If you take the Sopus products as a group, more than a third of the oil changes recorded used Pennzoil, Quaker State or Rotella (35.5%).
Rotella does not have much promotional spending (although it had at least one MIR over the survey period) while QS and PP have both had pretty heavy promotion. Both were also on clearance for a while at some retailers.
I bought another eighteen quarts of PP on clearance at MEIJER, for example, and I have fifteen quarts from the five bucks after MIR deal of the summer of 2009.
It may simply be a matter of a good oil at a good price winning every time.
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#2359573 - 08/27/11 05:27 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: ZJohnson]
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How and why was this member essentially banned?
Sometimes, members are give a "vacation" if they get a little carried away.
Why would a member who devoted considerable time to compiling an interesting bit of information be banned?
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#2359578 - 08/27/11 05:31 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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I notice that both Peak and SuperTech are both on the list.

IMO...Wouldn't both Peak and SuperTech be considered the same oil since both are bottled, most likely on the same line, by Warren Distributing out of Nebraska?
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#2384514 - 09/22/11 06:08 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: mongo161]
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Originally Posted By: mongo161
I notice that both Peak and SuperTech are both on the list.

IMO...Wouldn't both Peak and SuperTech be considered the same oil since both are bottled, most likely on the same line, by Warren Distributing out of Nebraska?


NO!

"Peak," IMHO, is a distant second to SuperTech products. The only time i have ever bought "Peak" is when i had a car that was not working properly, "had" to use it for whatever reason (seems silly now) and had to dump a gallon of antifreeze in it at a gas station, the gallon going for $12 to $15.

Supertech is Walmart's house brand and its actually decent oil. You could put Supertech in a LOT of cars and trucks, though people choose not to.

Peak is more like Lucas. hide

As to this post and BITOG's favorite oil, the paid site supporters that gave cash donations recommend Mobil 1 80 to 90% of the time conservatively, so id say its XOM (which is also Supertech.................) And yes, Mobil 1 is quite good, but not all engines like it so for it to always be tossed out at first recommendation, you draw your own conclusions there. All im saying.

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#2387457 - 09/25/11 01:11 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Anybody want to get market expenses for each manufacturer and list them alongside the numbers?

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#2434489 - 11/14/11 06:58 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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If anyone is interested, an easy way to get results in greater detail that can be analyzed easily is to use something like Survey Monkey.

I could set something up for 2011 if someone could supply questions with the pre-defined answers (that's the best way to automate the reporting).

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#2452659 - 12/04/11 10:23 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: defektes]
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Pennzoil, Whoa! I'm starting to think it's better than I always thought it was. I hear their Pennzoil Ultra is really really good.
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#2475877 - 12/28/11 10:35 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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I would venture a guess that the reason why Pennzoil is number one is because Wal-Mart sells it (just like F#$m filters). But I want to give the benefit of the doubt that people in the BITOG forums have a lot more knowledge about what they are actually put in there engines. I don't know anything about the newer formulation (PureBase) but I just can't get past the stigma that the original formulation was paraffin based.

Probably one pre defined question for next year would be do you change your own oil or have it done? I think the results would be interesting.
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#2582458 - 03/28/12 01:51 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Awesome work DT466E_bus! Thanks!
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#2597951 - 04/12/12 06:44 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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What does the % beside the numbers mean?

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#2615442 - 05/01/12 11:04 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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346 25.40%

Do you mean this? If that percentage of our members on here that answered used this particular oil.
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#2722494 - 08/22/12 08:02 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: dave1251]
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SUPER TABLE! I'm going to start using Wolf's Head--pulling the underdog (underwolf?) Kira

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#2743369 - 09/14/12 08:53 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Kira]
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I just read this for the first time.Are you saying that Pennzoil is the best oil out there?
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#2743565 - 09/14/12 12:06 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I just read this for the first time.Are you saying that Pennzoil is the best oil out there?


No, he's saying Pennzoil was used the most.
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#2743660 - 09/14/12 01:06 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: volk06]
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Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I just read this for the first time.Are you saying that Pennzoil is the best oil out there?


No, he's saying Pennzoil was used the most.

Ok.Someone needs to do a study and post results as to which is the BEST oils,synthetic and dino,in todays modern engines.5W20 oils would be a great choice.I'm very interested!
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#2743665 - 09/14/12 01:08 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Ok.Someone needs to do a study and post results as to which is the BEST oils,

There is another sticky on that subject:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1664795#Post1664795
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#2743675 - 09/14/12 01:12 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Ok.Someone needs to do a study and post results as to which is the BEST oils,

There is another sticky on that subject:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1664795#Post1664795

I just read that;Lets see what the members recommend for my truck;
2007 F150,4.2 V6,92K miles,drinven 80% on highways,usually 300-600 miles a month.
What oil is best for me and OCIs.
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#2743681 - 09/14/12 01:16 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Ok.Someone needs to do a study and post results as to which is the BEST oils,

There is another sticky on that subject:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1664795#Post1664795

I just read that;Lets see what the members recommend for my truck;
2007 F150,4.2 V6,92K miles,drinven 80% on highways,usually 300-600 miles a month.
What oil is best for me and OCIs.


Please start a new thread for that. Thanks!

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#2744387 - 09/15/12 09:35 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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whatever you do, don't use the wrong oil! a good place to start: mc 5w20 synthetic blend 7.5k oci.
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#2753833 - 09/25/12 03:34 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: defektes]
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Very interesting, but it would be good to see two tables with the EU and the USA, that way some of the oil brands that are popular in Europe like my favourite, Liquid Moly (Lubro Moly in the US) listed.
It would also be interesting to list the full synthetics in different colums, to see how popular they are.

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#2773790 - 10/15/12 08:48 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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this just proves the guys by there oil at wallmart that has the cheapest prices, they dont sell the higher priced oils or filters

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#3006864 - 05/19/13 05:16 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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kendall - 0.50%
trop artic - 0.30%


Kendall??

Trop-Artic????

WtheF? - have I fallen into a time-warp and been transported to 1967 ? - lol


Edited by LScowboy (05/19/13 05:17 PM)

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#3106589 - 08/26/13 10:30 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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I'm running Trop Artic now in 5w-20. Man the engine runs smooth and clean. Must compliment TA for labeling their product accurately. Calling it a blended synthetic instead of just throwing the synthetic label out there. Unless it's 100% group 4 or 5, man made material, it's not synthetic. It's either ground based/derived or made in a lab or a blend.

Anyway for $24 a case of 12 at Sam's Club, can't beat it with a stick. Everything I've read on TA has been positive.

Trop Artic at Sam's linky

slomo


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#3216702 - 12/14/13 05:59 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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There are approximately 254 million registered cars in America, so I think we need a larger sample of what oil is popular overall, and if Bob has 100 million members,,we would have more input, so,,get more members
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