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#2130141 - 01/06/11 09:34 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: daman]
BigJohn Offline


Registered: 06/21/08
Posts: 768
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..



Well, in all my oil changes for 2010, I only posted once.

But heck....that is how statistics work. Those that choose to reply....are how the numbers are crunched.

I really appreciate the effort and am a bit amazed at the results, to be honest.



Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
I am surprised Quaker State did better then Motorcraft...But it's all good.



I am not surprised at all. I am 42 years old and three months ago I purchased my first quarts of Motorcraft. I think it is awesome oil, but in irony....it is the oil that was in my 4Runners engine when it blew!!!! I still have four quarts and will use it with confidence in my daughters Yaris.
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#2130552 - 01/07/11 09:13 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Wow, great job and thank you for all your hard work!
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#2130884 - 01/07/11 02:16 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 1401
Loc: Occupied Virginia
Wow, I'm surprised to see Valvoline (my current favorite) in the top 3, beating Castrol in the process. Interesting.

Thanks for putting this together.

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#2131056 - 01/07/11 04:55 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 10/04/09
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Loc: USA
Thanks for the kind words guys.
I was suprised to see Supertech where it was.......
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#2132189 - 01/08/11 03:58 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 07/16/03
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Gureat job thanks.
I am not supprised about the Pennzoil (Penzoil for Johnny)
With the Most excellent Q&A they provided.
But I am supprised to see Amsoil down so low.
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#2132767 - 01/09/11 07:31 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 09/13/03
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Loc: Waterloo, ON
The top 5 are readily available at mass market retail chain stores. Not surprising the results given this is a mostly DIY forum.
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#2132773 - 01/09/11 07:37 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Bluestream]
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Registered: 10/28/02
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Originally Posted By: Bluestream
The top 5 are readily available at mass market retail chain stores. Not surprising the results given this is a mostly DIY forum.


Really not surprising when the results were only taken from one thread. Not taking anything away from Troybuilt's work, but you have to realize there is nothing really statistically valid unless you have some caveats.

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#2133558 - 01/09/11 10:56 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Ken42]
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Registered: 06/21/08
Posts: 768
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: Ken42
.....But I am supprised to see Amsoil down so low.



I'm not. Too hard to get and too expensive. Additionally, the big boys have now released oil that rivals Amsoils claims....and they are sold at WalMart.
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#2133624 - 01/10/11 01:29 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Exactly.
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#2133720 - 01/10/11 06:38 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
Happy Birthday Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46541
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Sure. Hard to get. Expensive. Whatever. Let's not discuss that here.

But 30 users? Gary, O2man, and I have more customers than that from BITOG......but again back to the poll.

The question in that thread is what? "What oil did you choose for your latest oil change?". Most of my customers are extended OCI people. I don't think many, if any, change under 6 month intervals - most go 12 months or so. Think about it a minute. Typical BITOGIAN fashion, Ken42 and others aren't thinking it through and seeing your good work as "What oil is the most POPULAR?" It doesn't work that way.....these are two very different questions. Plus like any voluntary poll, you have to factor in the people who took the time to answer, etc.

Guys - use your critical thinking and logic skills. Along with a good heart, it will make you a better person.

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#2146796 - 01/22/11 02:51 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: daman]
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Registered: 10/22/08
Posts: 1048
Loc: Sunny Calif
Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..


The sample size is large enough.

When they ask for the American public's opinion on their President, they don't poll all 230 million adults. They don't need to. When they do a study on the effectiveness of a drug, the sample size is typically 100-200. They don't have the entire population of the world in the study.

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#2146797 - 01/22/11 02:59 AM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: tonycarguy]
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Registered: 03/23/09
Posts: 2682
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: tonycarguy
Originally Posted By: daman
Not accurate unless all 33,000+ members posted,but still nice job.

i didn't vote..


The sample size is large enough.

When they ask for the American public's opinion on their President, they don't poll all 230 million adults. They don't need to. When they do a study on the effectiveness of a drug, the sample size is typically 100-200. They don't have the entire population of the world in the study.




There's more than just sample size, the sample has to be representative of the whole. I'd say many on here don't post about their oil changes (shocking considering what site it is).
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#2149970 - 01/24/11 08:07 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: Andrew MKZ]
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Registered: 10/06/09
Posts: 91
Loc: USA, CA, OC
i would use amsoil more often but its just hard to find in stores at a good price so i use penz

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#2150931 - 01/25/11 07:25 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: BigJohn]
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Loc: new jersey
Hi
Did Toyota finally replace your engine free of charge?

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#2150945 - 01/25/11 07:34 PM Re: ****BITOG's FAVORITE OIL 2010 RESULTS**** [Re: CROWNVIC4LIFE]
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Registered: 08/10/05
Posts: 2308
Loc: Kansas City
Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
I am surprised Quaker State did better then Motorcraft...But it's all good.


Some folks like me like sludge grin2
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