You thought engine oil was expensive where u live?

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But i think a lot of people confuse socialism with communism, this is one of the better definitions I have found;
"Both socialism and communism are based on the principle that the goods and services produced in an economy should be owned publicly, and controlled and planned by a centralized organization. Socialism asserts that the distribution should take place according to the amount of individuals' production efforts, however, while communism asserts that that goods and services should be distributed among the populace according to individuals' needs.

Another difference between socialism and communism is that communists assert that both capitalism and private ownership of the means of production must be done away with as soon as possible in order to make sure a classless society, the communist ideal, is formed. Socialists, however, see capitalism as a possible part of the ideal state and believe that socialism can exist in a capitalist society. In fact, one of the ideas of socialism is that everyone within the society will benefit from capitalism as much as possible as long as the capitalism is controlled somehow by a centralized planning system."
So what's that to do with the price of oil?
OK so that oil was taxed heavily, BUT prices for everything are also higher (so is Pay, and there is more 'evenness' in money distribution)
Also, that oil was proberbly not refined there, it was proberbly imported, Plus (as I stated in my last post) it's proberbly not a big selling commodity (as it may me in a larger country like the U.S.)
 
The price of that oil in Norway doesn't have anything to do with "socialism". Norwegians enjoy a significantly higher Per Capita GDP than Americans along with a much higher Per Capita Income. Combined that makes that M1 alot less expensive than the conversion rate to USD. Still, that M1 is expensive compared to everything else that can be bought in Norway or that store. M1 is a commodity in Norway. Some things are just more expensive in certain regions of a the world. I once sold a band new engine (YS 91AC) to a gentleman in Wales because the number of these engines imported into the U.K. are very little (therefore higher cost/unit, higher margin for dealers). In the USA, these engines are imported at a scale that makes these engines less expensive and an availability that keeps demand in check with supply.

The price of the M1 on display in Norway is not because there is already a tax (the "socialism" tax thrown around on this thread). It is just the price. The VAT comes afterwards and isn't much different than the sales tax I pay in Texas.
 
don't you think is has a lot to do with supply and demand?

We are a private transportation country. at least 2 or more cars per household. We use and buy a lot of oil.

Most European countries utilize public trans. so as a luxury to own a car, not many do, oil is sold far less.


also as mentioned on the board, having OCIs at least 10,000+ long, that oil sells even less often. But also requires much more expensive ingredients. Little demand, little supply, higher quality... of course it won't be $5 US per quart.
 
If you ask why some products are expensive in other places its because they can charge those prices and get away with it. US is a large market with many retailers selling the same or similar products. This results in more competition and lower prices.
 
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They have a higher incidence of alcoholism, but that's probably more due to the long winters than to the government. It's very popular these days to hate everything that isn't American and call it inferior, but if we realistically look at the world there are places that do many things better than we do. And Norway does a lot of things better than we do, including life expectancy, standard of living, crime rate, public infrastructure, education, health care, and general quality of life.

If that means that a liter of synthetic oil costs up to $36 then its a pretty good deal.

Sorry my fellow Americans, but its just the way it is.
 
Originally Posted By: Quest
and I bet because of the high cost of living, most motorists in European countries would vouch for long OCI as a result.

Q.


I'm sure this is a lot of why OCI's are longer in Europe (and trains are popular!)

John
 
Originally Posted By: instarx
They have a higher incidence of alcoholism, but that's probably more due to the long winters than to the government. It's very popular these days to hate everything that isn't American and call it inferior, but if we realistically look at the world there are places that do many things better than we do. And Norway does a lot of things better than we do, including life expectancy, standard of living, crime rate, public infrastructure, education, health care, and general quality of life.

If that means that a liter of synthetic oil costs up to $36 then its a pretty good deal.

Sorry my fellow Americans, but its just the way it is.


Maybe you could also compare and contrast the citizenship policies of the two countries as well? Do you think it factors in at all when comparing a relatively closed society to an open one such as America?
 
Holy smoke, if I ever go to Norway for vacation I'd definitely bring some of my free after rebate PEAK oil over there, I bet I can sell them for $20 a quart.
 
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