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#1970362 - 07/30/10 11:37 AM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Vikas]
Craig in Canada Offline


Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 1995
Loc: Toronto-ish, Canada
I think I read somewhere that one of the Gumout cleaners had a good amount of PEA and was a good alternative to Amsoil PI2 or Redline SI1. Exactly which of the many variants of Gumout/Gumout Regane have high amounts of PEA, now that Canadian Tire sells it?

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#1970428 - 07/30/10 12:30 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Craig in Canada]
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Last we knew for sure, anything that said "regane" had PEA in it. Gumout has other fuel system/injector cleaners that don't carry the regane name.
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#1970498 - 07/30/10 01:55 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: badtlc]
Craig in Canada Offline


Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 1995
Loc: Toronto-ish, Canada
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Last we knew for sure, anything that said "regane" had PEA in it. Gumout has other fuel system/injector cleaners that don't carry the regane name.


OK, so anything that says "Regane", that's a good start.

Does the "2X concentrated" or "normal" make a difference in the formulation? Are they truly the same product just "2X concentrated" so you mix less additive in with the same amount of gas? If so, I can't imagine why Gumout goes to the expense of having the two different product lines - pick one.

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#1970560 - 07/30/10 02:49 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Craig in Canada]
Loobed Offline


Registered: 07/20/07
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Loc: Northern California, USA
Originally Posted By: Craig in Canada
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Last we knew for sure, anything that said "regane" had PEA in it. Gumout has other fuel system/injector cleaners that don't carry the regane name.


OK, so anything that says "Regane", that's a good start.

Does the "2X concentrated" or "normal" make a difference in the formulation? Are they truly the same product just "2X concentrated" so you mix less additive in with the same amount of gas? If so, I can't imagine why Gumout goes to the expense of having the two different product lines - pick one.




The 2x does not have the same amount of carrier solvent as the old "normal style." The carrier solvent, in my opinion, does not offer any benefits. The new concentrate costs less to make, ship, and takes up less space on the shelf. These are all positive to the companies (Gumout, Walmart, etc) that sell the product to you. The concentrate bottle also takes less plastic to make which save money. The smaller plastic bottles are also cheaper to ship to Gumout, again saving money. This cost savings to the company means very little to you except maybe no significant rise in retail prices.


P.S. Gumout does not have two different product lines; i.e. normal and concentrate. They now only sell the concentrate. Any normal style bottles are left over stock.



Edited by Loobed (07/30/10 02:53 PM)
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#1970636 - 07/30/10 04:24 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Loobed]
Vikas Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 8101
Loc: NorthEast
That is also one of the reason that you might be able to find old style bottles on sale.

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#1972671 - 08/02/10 01:57 AM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Craig in Canada]
Spyder7 Offline


Registered: 07/28/10
Posts: 2269
Loc: NL, Canada
Originally Posted By: Craig in Canada
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Last we knew for sure, anything that said "regane" had PEA in it. Gumout has other fuel system/injector cleaners that don't carry the regane name.


OK, so anything that says "Regane", that's a good start.

Does the "2X concentrated" or "normal" make a difference in the formulation? Are they truly the same product just "2X concentrated" so you mix less additive in with the same amount of gas? If so, I can't imagine why Gumout goes to the expense of having the two different product lines - pick one.



The only one I used was Gumout Regane Fuel System Cleaner. It was the yellow stuff in the 2x bottle. I`d never used any of these before, aside from 2 different fuel injector cleaners that did nothing (one by STP, one by Prestone). Concluded that fuel inhjector cleaners were either snake oil or just too diluted to do anything useful.

Regane definitely worked. Acceleration and throttle response improved markedly well before I was even half way through the treated tank. I can`t vouch for the mileage benefits yet as its too soon still to tell. Although any gains there were secondary for me.

I will continue to use it. Either once or twice a year as part of my routine maintenance schedule. And I`d recommend it, with the usual caveat that ymmv.

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#1977556 - 08/06/10 07:05 AM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Vikas]
ARB1977 Offline


Registered: 06/12/05
Posts: 4483
Loc: North Texas
Originally Posted By: Vikas
I was mistaken about Regane fixing the A/F sensor. The code came back after a week even though initially all tests were completed successfully as verified by my scanner. The gas mileage has dropped substantially and all indications are that I will have to buy new A/F sensor. I still dumped another bottle of Regane in the tank hoping against hope that it will magically fix my A/F sensor!

- Vikas

Nothing will fix the sensor other than replacing it. Mine went out two weeks ago...all is good now.
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#1977640 - 08/06/10 09:15 AM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: ARB1977]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
REGANE is a great cleaner/conditioner, but it is not a mechanic in a bottle. I use a bottle at every oil change and have been doing that for the past 15 years.

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#1978348 - 08/06/10 11:14 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: stenerson]
Augustus Offline


Registered: 10/13/09
Posts: 209
Loc: Arizona, USA
Originally Posted By: stenerson
What's FP?


FP?
Quote:
FP 60 is the original blend utilizing a petroleum base. The chemistry of FP 60 was recently updated with a renewable base (soy) and additional upper cylinder protection.


-->http://www.lcdinc.com/products_fuel_power.php

soy? SOY?
No thanks.


Edited by Augustus (08/06/10 11:16 PM)

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#1978495 - 08/07/10 07:38 AM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Augustus]
Craig in Canada Offline


Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 1995
Loc: Toronto-ish, Canada
Originally Posted By: Augustus

soy? SOY?
No thanks.


Same as RLI, I believe, which is well respected around here.

FP Plus is working just fine - soy or not.


Edited by Craig in Canada (08/07/10 07:38 AM)

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#1978543 - 08/07/10 09:10 AM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Craig in Canada]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 14339
Loc: Niagara Falls, ON, CA (near)
Similar to RLI. RLI also has a fuel system cleaner product that works very very well and it's Canola based like the RLI oil is.

I have used RLI's fuel system cleaner and FP-60 with great results.

The 5w20 did amazing in my engine (see UOA section) even though I had fuel dilution issues going on.
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#1979733 - 08/08/10 01:39 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: StevieC]
jsap Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 60
Loc: NorCal
I was at Walmart, and they had three varieties of Gumout fuel system cleaners, plus one fuel injector cleaner.

What are the differences? All three says it contains amines.

6 oz Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner 2x, upto 21 gallons

6 oz Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner 2x for High Mileage Vehicles, up to 21 gallons (label says for over 75,000 miles)

10 oz All-in-one Complete Fuel System Cleaner 2x, up to 35 gallons (Doesn't say "Regane," but the label says it contains amines, and in addition to the Regane stuff, this says it removes rust & corrosion)

Which is the most powerful cleaner, and what is a good dosage? I read somewhere where a Mercedes technician heard valve carbon, and suggested to the owner to put 2 bottles of Techron Concentrate (each for 12 gallons) in 1/4 tank of gas (5 gallons). That would make it about 5x stronger than the labeled dosage.

Could I put 2 bottles of the 2x Regane in 5 gallons of gas?

Also, do you change your fuel filter before doing this?
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#1980180 - 08/08/10 08:54 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: jsap]
Durango Offline


Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 2040
Loc: Los Angeles, California
jsap,

I heard of that too somewhere..... magazine article perhaps. Personally I tried a bog bottle of Regain in my 01' Dodge Durango V-8 and didn't notice a difference cuz according to the bottle/instructions one bottle wil treat 25 gallons of gas which is what my truck/SUV has.

I think you can get away using one big bottle every service as all you need is to be consistant. I can't tell you what might happen is you over dose your tank of gas. It's OK to raise the PEA level up to a certain extent but what the engine and computer would do is uncertain to me.

Once of the things I also read was the amount of dwell time/soaking of the chemical on top of the pistons and such. Don't necessarly drive and burn the entire tank of gas with the additive. It's just as important to allow the chemical to soak too. It's a part of the cleansing process.

Durango

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#1980554 - 08/09/10 09:59 AM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Durango]
Vikas Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 8101
Loc: NorthEast
I generally stick with the Regane High Mileage. It is under $5 at Walmart.

When I want to experiment, I put the cleaner in the gas tank of my lawn mower when it runs out of gas. That way I can give as strong of dose as I can. I don't recall having any trouble starting or running the lawn mower even with insanely strong concentration of the cleaner. My idea was that if the cleaner becomes too strong even to run the mower, I could always add gas the and dilute it immediately.

- Vikas

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#1981938 - 08/10/10 03:21 PM Re: Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner [Re: Vikas]
[RT] ProjUltraZ Offline


Registered: 12/16/04
Posts: 1053
Loc: Honolulu, HI
i'm trying the Regane complete fuel system cleaner and the car is running very smooth, and seems to have a little more low rpm response. i guess something was dirty or there's octane booster in it. i can't find a pdf or ingredients, i assume PEA but have no idea. this is good stuff. put a bottle in about 11 gal 3/4 tank

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