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#3164521 - 10/23/13 03:31 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
TrevorS Offline


Registered: 07/14/13
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Helix Ultra 5w40 is a relative bargain in Oz. Not much more expensive than the US price.

M1 0w40 is a HUGE bargain in the US compared to the Oz price. Its 3x-4x cheaper.

The UK is similar. But at least there there are opportunities to get store brand and major brand synthetics at US like prices.

Indeed, there were recent deals at Halfords and ECP that had ACEA synthetics at $2-$3 a quart. In Oz you have to settle for dino at that price point.

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#3164559 - 10/23/13 05:07 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
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Helix Ultra is a good price in Aus, but so is Synpower 5w40 (LL-01). If anything the Synpower is usually cheaper yet it goes mostly unnoticed.

The only oil out there for $2-3 is either from Costco or an on special house brand 15w40 with obsolete API specs.

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#3217287 - 12/15/13 11:26 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
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I am blown away by this oil. It has been running in my dad's X5 the last few months, but I just came home and got to experience it last night. It had been running on the BMW 5W-30 since new until the last change. Even though Castrol oils are generally pretty good in terms of NVH, I am shocked how much smoother and quieter this oil has made the engine, especially after a cold start at 10F/-12C. There's something about Shell oils (and Castrol to a lesser extent) that make them excel in NVH. I experienced the same when I went to Rotella T6 from M1 0W-40 in my car.


Edited by vinu_neuro (12/15/13 11:27 AM)
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#3217458 - 12/15/13 02:41 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: vinu_neuro]
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Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
I am blown away by this oil. It has been running in my dad's X5 the last few months, but I just came home and got to experience it last night. It had been running on the BMW 5W-30 since new until the last change. Even though Castrol oils are generally pretty good in terms of NVH, I am shocked how much smoother and quieter this oil has made the engine, especially after a cold start at 10F/-12C. There's something about Shell oils (and Castrol to a lesser extent) that make them excel in NVH. I experienced the same when I went to Rotella T6 from M1 0W-40 in my car.


Strange, my S62 sounds the exact same on M1 0w-40 and PU 5w-40. Both were quieter than the BMW 5w-30 shrug
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#3219090 - 12/16/13 10:39 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
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Pennzoil Ultra Euro synthetic 5w/40 is used exclusively by Ferrari in the U.S.

It is the oil my dealer puts in my Maserati. I'm going to be doing my own oil changes from now on, and this is what I'll use.

http://www.pennzoil.com/motor-oil/pennzoil-ultra-synthetic-oil/


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#3225220 - 12/23/13 07:50 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
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Registered: 12/12/13
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Loc: China Grove, NC USA
Just an FYI, Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w-40 is now available in Advance Auto stores.

The oil thats in my local store is dated 12 November 2013 and still has the API SM label.

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#3225765 - 12/23/13 05:39 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: DougL3NC]
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Originally Posted By: DougL3NC
Just an FYI, Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w-40 is now available in Advance Auto stores.

The oil thats in my local store is dated 12 November 2013 and still has the API SM label.

That is good to know!
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#3226199 - 12/24/13 06:52 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: DougL3NC]
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Originally Posted By: DougL3NC
Just an FYI, Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w-40 is now available in Advance Auto stores.

The oil thats in my local store is dated 12 November 2013 and still has the API SM label.
My stores show special order at $9.59/qt


Edited by LotI (12/24/13 06:53 AM)
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#3231616 - 12/30/13 06:59 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: LotI]
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Registered: 12/12/13
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Loc: China Grove, NC USA
Originally Posted By: LotI

Originally Posted By: DougL3NC
Just an FYI, Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w-40 is now available in Advance Auto stores.

The oil thats in my local store is dated 12 November 2013 and still has the API SM label.
My stores show special order at $9.59/qt


I'd guess you are in a different region, store-wise. It's all over the southern piedmont of NC.

I'm going to run this in my M52TU.

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#3235246 - 01/02/14 09:47 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: OVERKILL]
nepadriver Offline


Registered: 07/20/11
Posts: 215
Loc: Northeast PA
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
I am blown away by this oil. It has been running in my dad's X5 the last few months, but I just came home and got to experience it last night. It had been running on the BMW 5W-30 since new until the last change. Even though Castrol oils are generally pretty good in terms of NVH, I am shocked how much smoother and quieter this oil has made the engine, especially after a cold start at 10F/-12C. There's something about Shell oils (and Castrol to a lesser extent) that make them excel in NVH. I experienced the same when I went to Rotella T6 from M1 0W-40 in my car.


Strange, my S62 sounds the exact same on M1 0w-40 and PU 5w-40. Both were quieter than the BMW 5w-30 shrug


Sounds like common theme, BMW branded oil is junk. I'd stay away from Castrol as well, made my bimmer knock hard. XOM and SOPUS know what they are doing.

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#3235267 - 01/02/14 10:00 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
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Whenever I read a post saying that a fully to-spec oil is bad because of something related to engine noise, I feel like I'm hearing someone say a nice restaurant is bad because of the waiters' name tags or something.
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#3235610 - 01/03/14 08:43 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
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Registered: 07/20/11
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Loc: Northeast PA
Or maybe a restaurant is bad because its too loud?

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#3235743 - 01/03/14 10:30 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: nepadriver]
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I meant what I said. Aside from extreme cases like bad lifter tick, there's no clear relationship between the perception of engine noise and the performance of engine oil.
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#3235796 - 01/03/14 11:08 AM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: Big Dave]
nepadriver Offline


Registered: 07/20/11
Posts: 215
Loc: Northeast PA
I was simply making a joke, you could be right. But if my engine sounds better with one versus another, I know what I'd pick.

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#3236419 - 01/03/14 07:32 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40 Euro [Re: d00df00d]
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Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I meant what I said. Aside from extreme cases like bad lifter tick, there's no clear relationship between the perception of engine noise and the performance of engine oil.


True, but the oils being discussed meet not only BMW's performance specs but also those of MB and Porsche wink This may mean they are better than the branded lubricant IMHO, this is regardless of what oil is louder or quieter, which as you've noted means basically nothing.
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