Type F transmission fluid
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Use what is available!!! THF?
No, don't use what is available. Type F is very unique and specific fluid. You're probably going to have to bite the bullet and have it shipped from out-of-country.
Redline has a Type F, and I'm sure I've seen others. Here's the Redline link. I'll look for others:
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=52&pcid=9
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=52&pcid=9
Type F is un friction modified ATF.
It does not slip as much, and this affects clutch operation and possibly life.
You are not performing tranny fluid changes every day, so why not simply have it shipped to you?
If you are not driving the antique very much, normal Dexron type fluid will be OK.
It does not slip as much, and this affects clutch operation and possibly life.
You are not performing tranny fluid changes every day, so why not simply have it shipped to you?
If you are not driving the antique very much, normal Dexron type fluid will be OK.
Originally Posted By: FusilliJerry82
No, don't use what is available. Type F is very unique and specific fluid. You're probably going to have to bite the bullet and have it shipped from out-of-country.
That is sort of what I figured. Not my car... a friend's. Has been parked about 15 years.
No, don't use what is available. Type F is very unique and specific fluid. You're probably going to have to bite the bullet and have it shipped from out-of-country.
That is sort of what I figured. Not my car... a friend's. Has been parked about 15 years.
IIRC, on the Redline site it says that fluid (Racing ATF) is "like" or "similar to" a type F. Take from that what you will. I would gladly use it myself though.
Originally Posted By: FusilliJerry82
IIRC, on the Redline site it says that fluid (Racing ATF) is "like" or "similar to" a type F. Take from that what you will.
It means it has no friction modifiers.
The two types of ATF in the "old days" were A and F.
A was used in Hydramatics and other non-Ford automatics and included a friction modifier for smooth shifts.
F was used in the first Ford automatics and was basically a 20 weight motor oil base stock with a red dye and specific additive package.
"F" type is still used in many racing automatics.
IIRC, on the Redline site it says that fluid (Racing ATF) is "like" or "similar to" a type F. Take from that what you will.
It means it has no friction modifiers.
The two types of ATF in the "old days" were A and F.
A was used in Hydramatics and other non-Ford automatics and included a friction modifier for smooth shifts.
F was used in the first Ford automatics and was basically a 20 weight motor oil base stock with a red dye and specific additive package.
"F" type is still used in many racing automatics.
Both my Fords call for it in the PS units, 1988 and 1993, still on the shelves in most stores around here.
Mind you he's in Bolivia.
Shelves are still full of Type F here. Whos gonna send him a case?
Type F is available but being stocked less often since no new products are using this fluid. These are sometimes also labelled as 'racing' ATFs, and are available in mineral or full synthetic.
And, some hydraulic and tractor type fluids meet the same 'type-f' specs so read the labels.
And, some hydraulic and tractor type fluids meet the same 'type-f' specs so read the labels.
First, sort out the many problems that occurred from sitting 15 years.
Valve and seats, rings and bores, brakes, etc..
Using a non type F fluid in the tranny is not a bi concern.
Valve and seats, rings and bores, brakes, etc..
Using a non type F fluid in the tranny is not a bi concern.
I'd consider shipping you some at cost. How much do you think you'd need?
I would have guessed you could find Type F in Bolivia.
Amsoil makes a Type F. If you can't find someone in Bolivia, let me know.
Amsoil ART Type F ATF
Amsoil makes a Type F. If you can't find someone in Bolivia, let me know.
Amsoil ART Type F ATF
Originally Posted By: widman
I know the shift characteristics and differences, but now to a practical question.
85 Jaguar Borg-Warner trans: Check Chart says Type F. There is no place in the country who has Type F.
Anyone have suggestions?
If you can find some Dextron II it will work. With an old jag I don't expect you will be beating on it. Those old B/W trannys were good reliable boxes... Good luck.
I know the shift characteristics and differences, but now to a practical question.
85 Jaguar Borg-Warner trans: Check Chart says Type F. There is no place in the country who has Type F.
Anyone have suggestions?
If you can find some Dextron II it will work. With an old jag I don't expect you will be beating on it. Those old B/W trannys were good reliable boxes... Good luck.
I'm currently running Redline's Type F in the TL right now and love it. The GN has always had straight type F or a mixture to get the desired shift quality.
In a trans not designed for type F, you're usually safe going with whatever the the worst thing that's going to happen from running type F in one is harsh shifts.
In a trans designed for type F, not using it can shorten the life.
In a trans not designed for type F, you're usually safe going with whatever the the worst thing that's going to happen from running type F in one is harsh shifts.
In a trans designed for type F, not using it can shorten the life.
I have two quarts of Kendall Type F in my shop that I've hung on to for about 20 years for no good reason as I never have, nor is it likely ever will own a Ford product. If anybody wants it, your're more than welcome to drive over and get it. 
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