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I have a 2003 Mustang GT and I only use Red Line 5W30 in the engine...did this since new.quote:
Originally posted by rainman:
Thanks for all the replies. My car (2005 Mustang GT) only has 14,000 miles, and has had M1 in it since 3000 miles. I doubt it needs cleaning at this point. Unless someone has a bad story to scare me off, I'm going to stick with Redline 5W-20, which is almost a 30 weight. I've previously been reluctant to use 5W-20, but have been convinced by all the glowing reports by all you guys here on BITOG. (OK, "thin" guys... welcome me aboard...) I gather that I should probably not try a UOA at the next change, but perhaps at the one after that?
I know cheaper oils will get me to 200k and beyond, but I don't just want to "get there". I want to be there with an engine which runs like new.
THANKS! That is good info gathering. After hearing this, I HOPE that RL is at most 50% POE, since their 5W-40 is in my crankcase now.quote:
Originally posted by buster:
I have some new info to share. LOL.
I called Elf and spoke with Laurant (sp?). He said what Molekule said in that you can only have at most, 50% Ester in the mix for a 4 stroke engine. He said esters are great for 2 stroke, but not 4 stroke. Seal leakage is a problem and he also said he doesn't know of any 100% ester based oils. They are not ideal.
*He said even their F1 oils are 80% PAO. So if this is correct, RL is probably at most 50% PAO and 50% POE. I do trust Elf, Shell and XOM because these companies to work very closely with these racing teams. Doesn't mean the others are not capable, but I do see some common denominator among the big companies. M1R was also mostly PAO.
Bottom line though is that Esters are not all that great for 4 stroke engines and that Group II+, III, and IV with a good add pack are every bit as good for some applications. Hasn't the analysis on BITOG shown that? I think so. Elf as you know is used in 4 F1 teams right now.
RL's racing oils might be all POE, but that is just a guess.
BTW, the guy is very nice and informative. I'd give Elf my business.
It's difficult to figure out what the 4-ball test proves....anything?quote:
If 4 ball wear tests mean anything, Amsoil did better than Redline in this 2002 comparison:
Mailed to Motul Germany, this is the reply:quote:
Originally posted by Wolf_Tm250:
Hello,
would it be possible to have the percentage of PAO and POE of:
- Silkolene 10w40
- Motul 300v 10w40
- RedLine 10w40
?
Thank you.
If it has PAO in it, then it's not all ester. . .quote:
Originally posted by boxcartommie22:
dave at redline emailed me said that redline oil is all ester but use SOME pao
Right. You can't be a little bit pregnant.quote:
Originally posted by ekpolk:
If it has PAO in it, then it's not all ester. . .quote:
Originally posted by boxcartommie22:
dave at redline emailed me said that redline oil is all ester but use SOME pao