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#1769029 - 02/04/10 10:17 PM Re: Why is HDEO so cheap? [Re: mentalbreakdown]
TiredTrucker Offline


Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 1102
Loc: Kellogg, IA
The marketing costs must be the reason along with volume. You do not see a lot of HDEO oils being marketed during NASCAR races or the Super Bowl. There is one heck of a lot of competetive pricing in heavy diesel oils. In HD trucking, every 1/4 cent a mile in operating costs means a lot. I will not pay for a brand name. I can get a Grp III/II CJ-4 blend (40% Grp III) from a local supplier for $9 a gallon in a 55 drum delivered to my door for $5. Getting just as good of UOA's from it as I ever did with any other brand I tried.

The other brands run a rediculous amount of ads in trucking magazines and truck radio programming. Someone has to pay for that. The amount of ads really is mind boggling when you consider that HD truck owners are already aware of the brand names. They tend not to be swayed as much as the typical auto owner. And at 10 gallons a pop for an oil change, few will shell out a larger amount of money for the latest fad. But then there are some......
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#1770673 - 02/06/10 08:11 AM Re: Why is HDEO so cheap? [Re: cool_breeze]
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Registered: 06/17/05
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Loc: Billings, MT
Originally Posted By: cool_breeze
What makes an Hdeo? Ive been using it for the last 20k on my almost 200k mile land cruiser with great results from blackstone so I KNOW its good for me...but why? Im new so bear with me please.

Is it the higher TBN which battles oxidation?


Heavy doses of antiwear additives like phosphorous and zinc, usually 50% higher than a typical car engine oil. Lots of detergents. Built to take a beating.
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#1777356 - 02/10/10 09:28 PM Re: Why is HDEO so cheap? [Re: getnpsi]
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Registered: 12/16/06
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Loc: Daytona, Florida
I think its because they sell more bulk in large quanity. You are paying for the auto "gimmick" oils where the 15w40 are more intended for work.

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#1783940 - 02/16/10 03:22 PM Re: Why is HDEO so cheap? [Re: mentalbreakdown]
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Registered: 02/01/09
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Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: mentalbreakdown
I will second the question as to which gas engines can beneft..



It all depends on what grade the engine needs. If it can take an Xw40, then no problem- HDEOs are commonly available in 5w40 and 15w40 weights.

If it calls for a 5w30 or 5w20- no such luck, although Rotella conventional comes in 10w30 which could be used in place of a 5w30 in warmer climates.

Some engines that are technically spec'd to take an Xw30 have been shown to perform very, very well on Xw40, too- the Jeep 4.0 comes to mind.
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#1785452 - 02/17/10 05:36 PM Re: Why is HDEO so cheap? [Re: 440Magnum]
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I really liked that Jeep 4.0 straight six engine! Had one in a Cherokee that my son now owns.
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