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#1647217 - 10/26/09 08:53 PM 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46694
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey
Total miles on vehicle = 69000+
Miles on oil = 18K
Time on oil ~6 months

PPM…Current(18K) - RD20(10K) - ASM (13.7K) - XLM 5W-20 (5.8K miles)
Aluminum--------8 -4 - 6 - 11
Chromium-------1 - 1- 2 - 1
Iron------------11- 11- 14 - 11
Copper----------10 - 19- 21 - 60
Lead------------0 - 0 - 0 - 0
Tin-------------0 - 0 - 0 - 0
Molybdenum-----1 - 2 - 6 - 71
Nickel----------0 - 0 - 0 - 0
Manganese------0 - 0 - 0 - 0
Silver----------0 - 0 - 0 - 0
Titanium--------0 - 0- 0 - 0
Vanadium--------0 - 0- 0 - 0
Antimony--------0 - 0- 0 - 0
Lithium---------1 - 0 - 0 - 2
Potassium------1 - 1 - 0 - 1
Boron-----------7 - 9 - 23 - 149
Barium----------0 - 0 - 0 - 0
Silicon---------20 - 17- 21 - 44
Sodium----------14 - 14 - 14 - 0
Calcium---------3509 - 2007 - 3411 - 2124
Magnesium-------15 - 8 - 13 - 14
Phosphorous-----681 - 1015 - 757 - 730
Zinc------------824 - 1324 - 865 - 875

CSt Visc. @ 100C----10.0 - 9.8 - 9.1 - 7.7

Fuel (%)-------------- <1.0 - 2.0 - <0.5 - 0.5
Water (%)--------------<0.1 <0.1 - 0 - 0
TBN------------------- 4.2 - 2.57 -10.6 - 4.43
Insolubles------------ <0.1% - 0.1 - 0.1- (N.A.)
Oxidation--------------42 - 42 - 42 - 10
Nitration--------------33 - 26 - 30 - 16

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#1647224 - 10/26/09 08:57 PM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: Pablo]
stranger706 Offline


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 890
Loc: Gulf Coast
18,000 miles with near single digit wear numbers. Amazing.

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#1647231 - 10/26/09 09:01 PM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: stranger706]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29205
Loc: NJ
Looks good. Very consistent #'s, despite different oils. ASM Tbn must have been a fluke.
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#1647263 - 10/26/09 09:16 PM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: buster]
tomcat27 Offline


Registered: 06/25/09
Posts: 2523
Loc: Midwest
very impressive! so whataya gonna run from here on out? I dont think the XL looks too impressive tho
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#1647279 - 10/26/09 09:24 PM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: tomcat27]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46694
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
XL was break-in wear. I should do another run with it.

I think 0W-30 in this engine is a winner.

Right now I'm back on ASM.

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#1647365 - 10/26/09 10:28 PM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: Pablo]
pennzoil_guru Offline


Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 168
Loc: Northern York Region, Ontario,...
Are you using any bypass filtration or just the ea filter?
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#1647456 - 10/26/09 11:19 PM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: pennzoil_guru]
JohnBrowning Offline


Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 9448
Loc: USA
What one SSO that looks good in a [censored] cat of an engine and you are declaring SSO a winner. 18K in 6 months could hardly get much easier on the oil that is all HWY miles. How do you explain all the lack luster SSO UOA we see on this site? I will say it does look like it is performing stellar in this application but I would bet M1 0W30 would do almost as well and cost a lot less. People always discredit any good UOA in a Toyota so I am thinking we should do the same for Amsoil and not count Honda or Toyota power plants because they turn in great numbers on almost any oil except Schaffers!LOL

So Pab's you need to find something like a direct injection V6 or V8 Audi or maybe a GM 60°V6 or V8 and go 10K miles in 6 months with SSO in them and report these types of number's!LOL Copper alone in a most GM V8's would add up to more wear metal then all the metals checked in the above!LOL

What up withthe Lithium does this Honda suffer from depression?LOL

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#1647655 - 10/27/09 06:00 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: JohnBrowning]
JoeFromPA Offline


Registered: 02/06/08
Posts: 686
Loc: PA
Lol, if it wasn't for the post count JB I'd think you were a troll. Here's the money quote, "18K in 6 months could hardly get much easier on the oil that is all HWY miles."

Yes, every oil can do 18k straight and have the same results. :)

Pablo - Nice run. I see now that your TBNs are most likely high due to lots of driving in short periods of time (i.e. no time for acid formation to break it down).

I think by most standards this oil could've seen 25k without batting an eye, under the same regime and with sufficient filtration capacity.

Joe
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#1647658 - 10/27/09 06:09 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: JohnBrowning]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46694
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
How do you explain all the lack luster SSO UOA we see on this site?


Which ones are those? I'm not sure if I want password access to your mind.

Perhaps you should post some links.

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#1647709 - 10/27/09 07:25 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: pennzoil_guru]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46694
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: pennzoil_guru
Are you using any bypass filtration or just the ea filter?


No bypass. Just Ea0.

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#1647717 - 10/27/09 07:31 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: Pablo]
addyguy Offline


Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 13429
Loc: Canada
Very, very impressive run. TBN and visc. are rock-solid. You probably could have gone 21-22k on this oil, like you did on your Volvo. Why'd you go back to ASM?

It IS a minor blip, but any concern about the uptick in aluminum?
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#1647718 - 10/27/09 07:32 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: Pablo]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29205
Loc: NJ
ACTUALLY JB, TSO was the oil that never impressed. SSO HAS been excellent so far and proven to be better than ASL/ATM.

I'd say ASM/SSO are their two best PCMO's. Both are also using the most current, modern additives. The others are using older additive technology. Amsoil usually puts the most modern additives into their SSO oil.

Btw, what is it with you and S3k? It's not their best PCMO anymore. Maybe their best diesel oil, but not for passenger cars.
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#1647727 - 10/27/09 07:36 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: addyguy]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46694
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
No concern about the Al at all. Seems to be tracking miles.

Because I have a ton of ASM and only a case of SSO.

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#1647730 - 10/27/09 07:39 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: Pablo]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29205
Loc: NJ
They really improved viscosity control with many of their oils. SSO in particular maintains it's viscosity extremely well.

SSO supposedly uses XOM's top of the line PAO as I've said before. There are different quality grades I believe.
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#1648018 - 10/27/09 11:25 AM Re: 18K Amsoil 0w-30 SSO 2006 Honda Odyssey [Re: buster]
97 GTP Offline


Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 844
Loc: LI, NY
Honda UOA = boring

Can't argue with results though.

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