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#1232920 - 09/09/08 07:07 PM BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B
gtx510 Offline


Registered: 04/26/04
Posts: 1463
Loc: CA
Is there an ATF that's compatiable with Texaco ETL 8072-B?
Think a ETL 7045E ATF would be compatible?
http://www.bmwtips.com/tipsntricks/Tranny/GM2000Chart.jpg

It's for a BMW / GM 5L40-E (or 5150?) tranny.
http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=134400
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_5L50_transmission
5-speed so it's not a 4L30-E.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_4L30-E_transmission

Could I use Dexron VI in the BMW tranny?
Redline D4 or D6 ATF?
Amsoil universal ATF?
Castrol Import or Domestic ATF?
A Lubegard additive?

And does anyone know if the CTS and BMW tranny filter and gasket are the same?

Thanks

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#1233527 - 09/10/08 05:51 PM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: gtx510]
gtx510 Offline


Registered: 04/26/04
Posts: 1463
Loc: CA
I found a couple ATF's that should work.
I'm guessing M1 M-V or Castrol Import would work the best for an ARX clean/rinse. What do you guys think?

Given the interchange with BMW and multi-vehicle ATF's and how Redline says D4 ATF is compatible with LT-71141, could Redline D4 also be compatible with ETL-8072B?
How about Amsoil ATF?


http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_int...ds_ImportMV.pdf Castrol Import ATF
LA2634, LT71141; Texaco ETL-7045-E, ETL-8027B, Shell M1375.4
What's odd is that I have an older bottle of Castrol import ATF and it only says LA2634 (Shell ATF) and LT71141 (Esso ATF) for BMW.
Do you think they changed the formulation or just the label?

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.aspx M1 Synthetic ATF
BMW LA2634, Esso LT 71141, ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B, N402
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_Multi-Vehicle_ATF.aspx M1 M-V ATF
BMW LA2634, Esso LT 71141, ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B, N402

http://store.europarts-sd.com/ATFspecguide.pdf Maxlife ATF
LT 71141, ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B
They don't say anything about Mercon V being compatible with LT-71141.
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/product_detail.asp?product=6
And Valvo's site doesn't mention anything.


http://www.pinnoil.com/pdf/sales/Multi-Vehicle-ATF.pdf Pinnacle Multi-Vehicle / MerconV ATF?

http://www.wynns.com/pdf/ATF_Recommendations_Chart_0208.pdf Wynn's 100% M-V ATF?
ESSO Type LT71141, Shell LA2634, Texaco ETL7045E/8072B, BMW 83229407765
http://www.wynns.com/pdf/Multi-Vehicle_ATF_Sell_Sheet.pdf
7 year / 210,000 mile limited warranty??

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#1234520 - 09/12/08 07:44 AM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: gtx510]
gtx510 Offline


Registered: 04/26/04
Posts: 1463
Loc: CA
No advice?
No one has a BMW with a GM 5-speed auto tranny?

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#1234788 - 09/12/08 02:43 PM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: gtx510]
Axe Man Offline


Registered: 10/17/05
Posts: 355
Loc: Highland, NY
Give me the year and model of your BMW. My son is the collision manager for a BMW dealership and I'll ask him what they use for drain/refill/flush.

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#1234800 - 09/12/08 02:57 PM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: Axe Man]
gtx510 Offline


Registered: 04/26/04
Posts: 1463
Loc: CA
2001 530i with a 12/00 build date, green sticker on tranny pan so it should use Texaco ETL-8072B.
BMW only sells in 20L containers, lowest price I've seen is about $300.
Thanks, I'd appreciate any info you could give.

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#1234814 - 09/12/08 03:26 PM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: gtx510]
Axe Man Offline


Registered: 10/17/05
Posts: 355
Loc: Highland, NY
I called him and he's checking. He believes they use the 20L bulk containers you mentioned but he'll verify. As soon as he gets back to me I'll post.

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#1234834 - 09/12/08 03:54 PM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: Axe Man]
Axe Man Offline


Registered: 10/17/05
Posts: 355
Loc: Highland, NY
OK, got an answer...sort of. In order for my son to be positive as which auto tranny you have he would need to last 7 digits of the VIN. So if you wanna post that or just PM me I'll get back to him.

But here's what he found out so far. If you have the GM tranny it specs either Texaco ETL-7045 or Dextron III. However, he stated that you CANNOT mix the two. If you don't know what's currently in there you have to do a total flush and refill.

Another hooker is that the correct fluid is build date dependent. I gave him the 12/00 build date but to nail it down completely he would need that VIN.

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#1235254 - 09/13/08 09:01 AM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: gtx510]
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7467
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Per GMs 2009 5L40E specs: "The Hydra-Matic 5L40 uses DEXRON® III fluid and is filled for life, requiring no maintenance. The fluid is added at the transmission plant eliminating the chance of contamination at the vehicle assembly sites."

Check here: http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/pro...0_M82_MX5_n.doc



Joel
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#1235302 - 09/13/08 10:56 AM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: JTK]
Whitewolf Offline


Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 1923
Loc: MI, USA
The 5L40E can also use DEXRON-VI.


Edited by Whitewolf (09/13/08 10:56 AM)
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#1235523 - 09/13/08 08:16 PM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: Whitewolf]
bmwtechguy Offline


Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 2526
Loc: South Carolina
Dex VI would be an upgrade to the original Dex III. I have used Amsoil's universal ATF to service the GM units in BMWs at the advice of my builder and have never had any regrets. He says that's pretty much all he uses these days except on a few of the newest units. It could save you about $5 per liter over the original stuff. The Dex VI would save you even more.

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#1235601 - 09/14/08 12:10 AM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: bmwtechguy]
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Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 12559
Loc: Silicon Valley
How can Dex III be a lifetime fill?
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#1235609 - 09/14/08 12:29 AM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: PandaBear]
Tempest Offline


Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 10468
Loc: Las Vegas NV
 Originally Posted By: PandaBear
How can Dex III be a lifetime fill?

It will just be a short life.
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#1235710 - 09/14/08 09:33 AM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: Tempest]
JTK Online   content


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7467
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Yep, "Lifetime" and Strasbourg France made GM units just don't fit together! The (Isuzu/BMW/Cadillac) 4L30E came out of the same plant and was lifetime filled with Dex III. Needless to say, they didn't live much past 75Kmi w/out some drain/fills. With some maintenance, I have seen reports of owners getting close to 200Kmi with them. Not all that many automagics will do that.

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#1609219 - 09/23/09 08:47 PM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: Whitewolf]
mosearch Offline


Registered: 03/12/09
Posts: 3
Loc: california
Originally Posted By: Whitewolf
The 5L40E can also use DEXRON-VI.


I was under the impression Dex VI was a lower viscosity spec than Dex III...if so, would it really be an "upgrade" to change-out Dex III for Dex VI in a used transmission?? How does that work?


Edited by mosearch (09/23/09 08:49 PM)

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#1609514 - 09/24/09 07:15 AM Re: BMW ATF: Texaco ETL 8072-B [Re: mosearch]
Craig in Canada Offline


Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 1995
Loc: Toronto-ish, Canada
Amsoil Universal ATF lists ETL 8072B on its list of applications.

I've recently changed a 2002 540i specing Esso LT71141 to Amsoil ATF (LT71141 also being on its list) and it's like a new car. So far so good.

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