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#1524723 - 07/08/09 12:32 AM Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System
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#1524728 - 07/08/09 12:36 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: DragRace]
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You beat me by seconds...

I'm anxious to see more details. I'm sure some of the guys at work will have it installed on something asap.
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#1524729 - 07/08/09 12:41 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: greenaccord02]
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Hopefully it gives Microsoft some competition somewhere down the road ;\)
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#1524854 - 07/08/09 07:36 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: DragRace]
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Great. Google already has access to all your data when their toolbar is installed... now it will be even easier for them to search your stuff, push advertising, etc.

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#1524875 - 07/08/09 08:01 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: DragRace]
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Has anybody heard of the cost of this operating system?
On one side you have Ubuntu which (for the most part) is free.
On the other side you have Microsoft.
I'm curious where google will fit in.

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#1524876 - 07/08/09 08:03 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: JHZR2]
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Old news. It doesn't take much to imagine Android jumping from smart phones to netbooks.

But I find it highly doubtful that it will go beyond netbooks any time soon. If I were a Microsoft investor, i wouldn't worry much... yet.

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#1524878 - 07/08/09 08:05 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: JHZR2]
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If you want a good desktop operating system, just install Linux. It's much, much better than Microsoft, mostly because Linux is open-source (the code is not a secret, but openly available), which means millions of smart people across the globe can contribute to the code to improve it and find code glitches and provide fixes. So Linux has much better quality control than Microsoft. Microsoft's own internal investigation in the 1990's determined that the company can't compete with Linux on a quality control basis.

The Linux operating system is faster, more stable, and more secure than Microsoft. Microsoft's operating systems are so poorly designed that they require huge amounts of computing resources in terms of CPU usage . Linux is so well designed by the millions (or hundreds-of-thousands) of smart people around the globe that it requires far less in the way of CPU usage. It's not always nagging the CPU for more, more, more like Microsoft.

Linux is a very well-designed engine. Microsoft is like a Yugo.

You'll probably want to install the easiest and most popular version of Linux called Ubuntu Linux, available at Ubuntu.com , and totally free of course. Kind of amazing that the free operating systems like Linux and BSD are light years ahead and much more advanced than the non-free operating systems.

By the way, the Apple OS is based on FreeBSD. You gotta pay for it because Apple overlays its own proprietary GUI over it, but the times the Apple OS has had problems, they've been related to Apple's free overlay, not the FreeBSD underneath which runs the thing ;-)


Edited by Built_Well (07/08/09 08:16 AM)
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#1524880 - 07/08/09 08:06 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: Built_Well]
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If your on the internet there is no privacy.

I think many have tried to challenge MS and failed miserably (if statistics are any indication). Google has a reputation to achieve the unthinkable, and so far they have succeeded in just about any project they've undertaken.

I like MS, but I also like Google.
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#1524902 - 07/08/09 08:32 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: Built_Well]
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 Originally Posted By: Built_Well
....the times the Apple OS has had problems, they've been related to Apple's free overlay, not the FreeBSD underneath which runs the thing ;-)


Umm, I meant to say the problems have been related to Apple's closed source overlay.

By the way, I've noticed that lots of people unfamiliar with Linux seem to think it's strictly a command line OS. In actuality, Linux has awesome GUIs that make it look just like Microsoft Windows--only better :-)
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#1524914 - 07/08/09 08:47 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: DragRace]
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 Originally Posted By: DragRace
I think many have tried to challenge MS and failed miserably (if statistics are any indication).


If statistics are any indication, Microsoft has failed miserably, not Linux and Unix. I'm not an expert by any means when it comes to computers, but there are 2 general uses of OS'es:
Desktop environment
and
Server environment

As servers, Linux and Unix far-and-away outnumber Microsoft. Yahoo, for instance, uses FreeBSD (a Unix OS). Your bank, NASA, and nuclear power station are not going to install Microsoft servers for mission critical applications. They use Unix and Linux servers.

Now on the desktop for the general public, true, Microsoft currently outnumbers Unix and Linux, but still Unix and Linux gain more users every year. They aren't going way. They're a pesky thorn in Microsoft's closed-source side, and they're gaining every year. Look at Apple. They realized their old closed-source OS's were junky, and adopted FreeBSD beginning with OS X (or was it OS 9?--I don't know much about Apple OSes). When you run Apple, you're basically running FreeBSD, with Apple's overlay, of course. So right there, UNIX and Linux made huge inroads on Microsoft, when it comes to counting the number of home users. The rumor is that Microsoft is also thinking of adopting UNIX or Linux for future OSes, and overlaying its own GUI on top, just like Apple did.

I haven't used that Microsoft junk on my home desktop since the 1990's. I prefer the best :-)

I guess that's why I'm also trying RLI Bio-Syn oil in my car, Red Line, Amsoil, and others. It's fun using and trying the best stuff. That's also why I bought a Toyota [chuckle]. Okay, you got me: Toyotas aren't fast like Linux, but they are reliable like Linux :-)


Edited by Built_Well (07/08/09 08:54 AM)
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#1524921 - 07/08/09 08:54 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: JHZR2]
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 Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Great. Google already has access to all your data when their toolbar is installed... now it will be even easier for them to search your stuff, push advertising, etc.
When the O/S freezes instead of getting a BSOD like in windows you will get Google Ad's that suggest repair shops and/or places to buy a new computer.
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#1524923 - 07/08/09 08:55 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: Built_Well]
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Loc: NJ
 Originally Posted By: Built_Well
If you want a good desktop operating system, just install Linux. It's much, much better than Microsoft, mostly because Linux is open-source (the code is not a secret, but openly available), which means millions of smart people across the globe can contribute to the code to improve it and find code glitches and provide fixes. So Linux has much better quality control than Microsoft. Microsoft's own internal investigation in the 1990's determined that the company can't compete with Linux on a quality control basis.

The Linux operating system is faster, more stable, and more secure than Microsoft. Microsoft's operating systems are so poorly designed that they require huge amounts of computing resources in terms of CPU usage . Linux is so well designed by the millions (or hundreds-of-thousands) of smart people around the globe that it requires far less in the way of CPU usage. It's not always nagging the CPU for more, more, more like Microsoft.

Linux is a very well-designed engine. Microsoft is like a Yugo.

You'll probably want to install the easiest and most popular version of Linux called Ubuntu Linux, available at Ubuntu.com , and totally free of course. Kind of amazing that the free operating systems like Linux and BSD are light years ahead and much more advanced than the non-free operating systems.

By the way, the Apple OS is based on FreeBSD. You gotta pay for it because Apple overlays its own proprietary GUI over it, but the times the Apple OS has had problems, they've been related to Apple's free overlay, not the FreeBSD underneath which runs the thing ;-)



I like Linux, but here is what is epic fail about it. I've used it on and off(get tired of an OS and just switch around). It's open source, which is great, everyone can help in its creation etc. This works because Linux is a relatively small market. If Linux were to become the mainstream OS that Windows is, that open source nothing is a secret thought process is getting tossed out the Window. People will have even more free reign to cause harm on a system.

I've used Linux as a replacement OS and its fine for day to day tasks etc. But if you use your PC for anything more than surfing, productivity apps then its quite hard to use. I've managed it for a year using Wine etc for gaming, running a Virtual Box install of XP to synch my Zune and use some apps that aren't quite there under Nix, getting there but not quite.

Ubuntu and Suse did a fantastic job of making Linux more friendly and easier to use, and I think with Google jumping in, things will become quite solid. They will have the foundation to possibly push forth a 1 distro standard which is what Linux really needs to take off. To many distro's means no real compliance standard for software, packages etc.


The thing I really can say is that Windows has NEVER given me grief, never really experienced issues. If you know what your doing, the OS rarely will give problems. The same can be said with Linux. If you do not know what your doing you will have problems with both OS's. People that tend to complain are people who typically get frustrated quickly when attempting to accomplish a task with a PC.

BSOD's, Error messages etc are few and far between, as an IT pro I myself never encounter them, working on family computers etc, client computer's its all negligence. Death by dust, Heat, a full HDD, a million viruses on a machine.

Much like people buying a car and not doing maintenance on it.


Edited by Anies (07/08/09 08:59 AM)
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#1524937 - 07/08/09 09:07 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: StevieC]
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Microsoft is slowly going the way of GM.

Microsoft stock hasn't moved in a decade.

They're losing users to Linux and Unix everyday.

If Microsoft survives the next 10 or 20 years, it will be because they adopt open-source Linux/Unix like Apple has.


Edited by Built_Well (07/08/09 09:08 AM)
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#1524950 - 07/08/09 09:16 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: JHZR2]
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 Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Great. Google already has access to all your data when their toolbar is installed... now it will be even easier for them to search your stuff, push advertising, etc.


I hate spam, but I love effective, well targeted advertising. If their access to personal browsing habits means that I can actually buy hard-to-find things more effectively, or advertise my consulting services more effectively, then I'm all for it.

The lack of targeted, usage appropriate information is one of the biggest "frictions" (drags) on our economy. If Google is in the position to counter that, then they are in the driver's seat.

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#1524966 - 07/08/09 09:31 AM Re: Google Plans to Unveil PC Operating System [Re: TooManyWheels]
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http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html

This sounds very interesting - Google always dreams big, but this is something that could really change the way people view open source and actually make the move away from MS operating systems something that the 'average' home user might consider. They're really putting it out there at the right time. If it's a quality product when it's brought to market, they could really deal a heavy blow to Microsoft. It would be a kick in Microsoft's weakest area at a time when they're still on the ground, recovering from the Vista failure.
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