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#1421942 - 04/01/09 01:15 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Highroller]
gamefoo21 Offline


Registered: 04/19/08
Posts: 138
Loc: Kah-nah-dah
http://www.permatex.com/products/Automot...s_Lubricant.htm

This stuff is amazing, it can go everywhere, and it's a rubber/plastic protectant. Which is always handy.

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#1421982 - 04/01/09 02:11 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Highroller]
moribundman Offline


Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 23591
 Originally Posted By: Highroller
Ok, thought my local auto stores would have some of the permatex ceramic extreme brake lubricant but they don't. I guess it's still too new to be out on the shelves here.



I used that purple menace some time last. No issues at all.

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#1425408 - 04/05/09 01:31 AM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: moribundman]
1993_VG30E_GXE Offline


Registered: 04/04/09
Posts: 355
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Jet-Lube Model# 550 Anti-Seize

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#1434139 - 04/14/09 03:35 AM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: 1993_VG30E_GXE]
nthach Offline


Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 2000
Loc: California
Molykote M77, spec'd by Honda and MB. Sil-Glyde or Dow Corning 111 on sliding pins.

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#1434246 - 04/14/09 08:01 AM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: nthach]
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 11323
Loc: The Motor City
Personally, I think nothing can beat Molykote M-77 for caliper slidng pins. It has the best of both worlds... silicone grease for resistance to high temperature and water washout, and moly disulfide for EP service.

http://www3.dowcorning.com/DataFiles/090007c88000445b.pdf

You can even use it to butter the caliper piston bore where all the corrosion occurs. The silicone grease would keep the corrosive environment out of the caliper seal area without interfering with the brake fluid.

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#1434467 - 04/14/09 12:11 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Kestas]
nthach Offline


Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 2000
Loc: California
 Originally Posted By: Kestas
Personally, I think nothing can beat Molykote M-77 for caliper slidng pins. It has the best of both worlds... silicone grease for resistance to high temperature and water washout, and moly disulfide for EP service.

http://www3.dowcorning.com/DataFiles/090007c88000445b.pdf

You can even use it to butter the caliper piston bore where all the corrosion occurs. The silicone grease would keep the corrosive environment out of the caliper seal area without interfering with the brake fluid.

Someone here M-77 attacks rubber, but I used it on slide pins before.

I just did a brake/bearing job on my friend's beater Toyota truck - I used M-77 on the backing plates/shims/slide pins.

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#1434912 - 04/14/09 08:17 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: nthach]
tom slick Offline


Registered: 05/26/03
Posts: 8954
Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
If you read Kestas' link M-77 is specifically recommended for brake parts and other parts "not resistant to mineral oils"
Its features are "Compatable with many types of elastomers and plastics"
_________________________
You get what you pay for...
So keep in mind how much you paid for this advice.

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#1435458 - 04/15/09 12:03 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Kestas]
gamefoo21 Offline


Registered: 04/19/08
Posts: 138
Loc: Kah-nah-dah
 Originally Posted By: Kestas
Personally, I think nothing can beat Molykote M-77 for caliper slidng pins. It has the best of both worlds... silicone grease for resistance to high temperature and water washout, and moly disulfide for EP service.

http://www3.dowcorning.com/DataFiles/090007c88000445b.pdf

You can even use it to butter the caliper piston bore where all the corrosion occurs. The silicone grease would keep the corrosive environment out of the caliper seal area without interfering with the brake fluid.


http://www.permatex.com/documents/tds/Automotive/24125.pdf

Non-Petroleum, Non-Silicone, with Ceramic EP elements. :D

Chemical Type Synthetic base oil
Appearance Purple paste
Specific Gravity --- 0.95
Worked penetration (60 strokes),ASTM D-217 --- 265-295
Dropping point, ºC (ºF) ASTM D-2265 --- None
NLGI Number --- 2
Rust Preventative Test ASTM D-1743 --- Pass
Water Washout @100F, % Loss, ASTM D-1264 --- 2.0%
Timken OK Load, lbs. , ASTM D-2509 --- 45lbs.
Four-Ball Wear Scar, mm (40 kg. 1 hr 1200 RPM) ASTM D-2266 --- 0.6mm


Edited by gamefoo21 (04/15/09 12:05 PM)

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#1490319 - 06/07/09 03:08 AM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: gamefoo21]
Konst Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 45
Loc: Moscow
Guys, my favorite are SLIPKOTE® 220-R Silicone Disc Brake Caliper Grease and Noise Suppressor. It is very universal and popular brake grease in Russia. -:)


more infos http://www.huskey.com/s_autodisc.html


Edited by Konst (06/07/09 03:16 AM)

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#1490532 - 06/07/09 11:05 AM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: tom slick]
Konst Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 45
Loc: Moscow
 Originally Posted By: nthach
Molykote M77, spec'd by Honda and MB.

I think that the MB Brake pad paste (Bremsklotzpaste), Part No. A 001 989 94 51 is Copper based Anti-Seize, but not sure. Can anybody tell me the exactly color of that grease?

 Originally Posted By: tom slick
Its features are "Compatable with many types of elastomers and plastics"

Honda is not recommend the Molykote M77 for rubber parts of brake system.
Here is recommended Honda’s brake lubes:

Honda Caliper Grease, 08C30-B0224M
Brembo Brake Grease, 08798-9027
3M Brake Lube, 08945
Molykote M77, 08798-9010

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#1490594 - 06/07/09 12:17 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Kestas]
Konst Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 45
Loc: Moscow
 Originally Posted By: Kestas
Personally, I think nothing can beat Molykote M-77

Kestas, what’s percentage of Moly in M77?
I know, who can beat it around the planet earth.

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#1491367 - 06/08/09 08:11 AM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Konst]
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 11323
Loc: The Motor City
The MSDS sheet shows it has >60% moly disulfide by weight.

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#1496976 - 06/12/09 07:06 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Kestas]
Konst Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 45
Loc: Moscow
 Originally Posted By: Kestas
The MSDS sheet shows it has >60% moly disulfide by weight.

pls show

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#1497048 - 06/12/09 08:44 PM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: Konst]
moribundman Offline


Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 23591
 Originally Posted By: Konst
I think that the MB Brake pad paste (Bremsklotzpaste), Part No. A 001 989 94 51 is Copper based Anti-Seize, but not sure.


I seriously doubt that this is a copper paste! Copper paste easily contaminates ABS sensors, and all current MB cars have ABS. Copper paste is not legal to use on brake systems equipped with ABS in Germany.

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#1497452 - 06/13/09 10:16 AM Re: A good brake grease/lubricant? [Re: moribundman]
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 11323
Loc: The Motor City
I have analyzed MB brake pad paste in the lab and can categorically tell you that it IS copper-based antiseize.

How can it wreak havoc with the ABS system? The paste is not magnetic. On the other hand, nickel-based antiseize is magnetic.

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