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#1858178 - 04/15/10 05:35 AM Re: Subaru Oil Pump Specs as Relates to Filter Bypass [Re: Soobs]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
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Originally Posted By: Soobs
Originally Posted By: marvinlee
My 2010 Subaru Legacy Limited with the 3.6R engine came with a black Tokyo Roki filter. I ordered a spare oil filter of the same part number (also the manual's part number) and it, too, was a black Tokyo Roki oil filter of identical style and appearance. It weighs just a bit more, dry, than the crossed Purolator PureOne oil filter, also in dry, pre-use condition. I draw no great conclusions from any of this, other than that Subaru still uses some Tokyo Roki oil filters.


The blue Honeywell filters are for H4 Subaru engines only. The H6 oil filter OEM is a Tokyo Roki.


Is the H6 Tokyo Roki something that can be used on the H4?
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#1858533 - 04/15/10 12:23 PM Re: Subaru Oil Pump Specs as Relates to Filter Bypass [Re: webfors]
Soobs Offline


Registered: 08/14/09
Posts: 240
Loc: Virginia, USA
Originally Posted By: webfors
Originally Posted By: Soobs
Originally Posted By: marvinlee
My 2010 Subaru Legacy Limited with the 3.6R engine came with a black Tokyo Roki filter. I ordered a spare oil filter of the same part number (also the manual's part number) and it, too, was a black Tokyo Roki oil filter of identical style and appearance. It weighs just a bit more, dry, than the crossed Purolator PureOne oil filter, also in dry, pre-use condition. I draw no great conclusions from any of this, other than that Subaru still uses some Tokyo Roki oil filters.


The blue Honeywell filters are for H4 Subaru engines only. The H6 oil filter OEM is a Tokyo Roki.


Is the H6 Tokyo Roki something that can be used on the H4?


I really can't say for sure. I know it doesn't fit on the H4 Turbo due to clearance issues, but in the past you could put it on the H4 NA. The H6 filter also has the correct pressure relief of 23PSI.

You could call a dealership and find out if it works on the H4. (I think it does, but find out before you do it.)

The Honeywell filter really does a fine job though. Check out this UOA: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1857613#Post1857613
He uses the same setup as me. OEM air and oil filters with Chevron Supreme 5w30.

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#1858583 - 04/15/10 01:13 PM Re: Subaru Oil Pump Specs as Relates to Filter Bypass [Re: webfors]
TheMAN Offline


Registered: 10/10/09
Posts: 74
Loc: Dallas, TX
Originally Posted By: webfors
Originally Posted By: Soobs
Originally Posted By: marvinlee
My 2010 Subaru Legacy Limited with the 3.6R engine came with a black Tokyo Roki filter. I ordered a spare oil filter of the same part number (also the manual's part number) and it, too, was a black Tokyo Roki oil filter of identical style and appearance. It weighs just a bit more, dry, than the crossed Purolator PureOne oil filter, also in dry, pre-use condition. I draw no great conclusions from any of this, other than that Subaru still uses some Tokyo Roki oil filters.


The blue Honeywell filters are for H4 Subaru engines only. The H6 oil filter OEM is a Tokyo Roki.


Is the H6 Tokyo Roki something that can be used on the H4?

I know you already saw this, but this is for others to see:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1855050&page=3

short answer is no, you don't want to put the H6 filter in the 4 cyl

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#1859923 - 04/16/10 04:05 PM Re: Subaru Oil Pump Specs as Relates to Filter Byp [Re: TheMAN]
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How about the 2.0 WRX Turbo? Not that I am going to use it in my car...
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#1861033 - 04/17/10 02:25 PM Re: Subaru Oil Pump Specs as Relates to Filter Byp [Re: SilverGGA]
TheMAN Offline


Registered: 10/10/09
Posts: 74
Loc: Dallas, TX
like I said... no
read my post in the other thread which explains why

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#2056118 - 10/24/10 10:24 AM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: LoneRanger]
Jackfortune Offline


Registered: 10/24/10
Posts: 1
Loc: Maine
Check out this thread on LegacyGT.com:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147113

For those of you looking for the 23 psi bypass filter for a Subaru, follow the thread to the 2009 Mazda RX8 oil filter comments. Should be an exact fit for Subarus, with a higher can capacity (and more filter media?). Filter #N3R114302. My apologies if this info is already in this thread somewhere.

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#2056170 - 10/24/10 11:42 AM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: LoneRanger]
webfors Offline


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Yeah, that's a good option. The Tokyo Roki's are made very well! Only concern is having the filter close to the exhaust headers... they get *very* hot. However, that's more a theoretical concern than a practical one.
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#2056333 - 10/24/10 01:55 PM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: Jackfortune]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 8596
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: Jackfortune
Check out this thread on LegacyGT.com:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147113


From the spec sheet someone posted on that link, the oil pump's pressure relief setting is 156.6 psi ... Wow! shocked

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#2056409 - 10/24/10 04:15 PM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: ZeeOSix]
webfors Offline


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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Jackfortune
Check out this thread on LegacyGT.com:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147113


From the spec sheet someone posted on that link, the oil pump's pressure relief setting is 156.6 psi ... Wow! shocked


Look closer, it's 20-26 psi grin
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#2056444 - 10/24/10 04:59 PM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: webfors]
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Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 8596
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: webfors
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Jackfortune
Check out this thread on LegacyGT.com:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147113


From the spec sheet someone posted on that link, the oil pump's pressure relief setting is 156.6 psi ... Wow! shocked


Look closer, it's 20-26 psi grin


Look closer ... I said oil pump's pressure relief setting. There is a difference, I'm well aware of that. grin

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#2056649 - 10/24/10 08:33 PM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: ZeeOSix]
webfors Offline


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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: webfors
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Jackfortune
Check out this thread on LegacyGT.com:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147113


From the spec sheet someone posted on that link, the oil pump's pressure relief setting is 156.6 psi ... Wow! shocked


Look closer, it's 20-26 psi grin


Look closer ... I said oil pump's pressure relief setting. There is a difference, I'm well aware of that. grin


ahh... I read to fast grin
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#2056866 - 10/25/10 02:46 AM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: webfors]
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Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 8596
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: webfors

ahh... I read to fast grin


No problem ... I sometimes do too. wink With the oil pump able to put a maximum pressure of 156.6 PSI on the oiling system before the pumps starts dumping back to the sump, it's no wonder they have some insane GPM spec on their oil system.

The Subaru's oil system is not something that falls in the "norm" of most street cars.

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#2058260 - 10/26/10 11:32 AM Re: Subaru Oil Pump Specs as Relates to Filter Bypass [Re: LoneRanger]
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Registered: 08/29/08
Posts: 43
Loc: Nebraska
Just when I thought I found an oil filter to stick with, you guys go casting doubt over it smile Been using PureOnes for a while now, even did a UOA over winter and everything came back fine, except for some high lead (45ppm in 4K miles when traditionally it has been around 12). Relief valve on the PureOnes is 14-18PSI, OEM is 20-26. I've had UOAs come back with contaminants in oil on the OEM filters when I used to live out in rural area, that's why I switched.
Insight? I'm inclined to think if it ain't broke don't fix it and continue to use PL14612 especially since it's taller than OEM.
I had contacted Purolator, a product engineer said it's fine and not to worry about it, some people said it may be cause of failed turbos due to the oil line screen filter getting clogged because the filter was in bypass mode for too long/when it should not have been.


Edited by fishbone (10/26/10 11:33 AM)

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#2204480 - 03/18/11 05:01 PM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: ZeeOSix]
SubLGT Offline


Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 1945
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
............With the oil pump able to put a maximum pressure of 156.6 PSI on the oiling system before the pumps starts dumping back to the sump, it's no wonder they have some insane GPM spec on their oil system.

The Subaru's oil system is not something that falls in the "norm" of most street cars.


That spec is for a Mazda rotary, not a Subaru. The Subaru relief valve is set at 85psi.

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#2204518 - 03/18/11 05:39 PM Re: Filter Bypass psi/Mazda replacment for Subaru [Re: SubLGT]
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Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 8596
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: SubLGT
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
............With the oil pump able to put a maximum pressure of 156.6 PSI on the oiling system before the pumps starts dumping back to the sump, it's no wonder they have some insane GPM spec on their oil system.

The Subaru's oil system is not something that falls in the "norm" of most street cars.


That spec is for a Mazda rotary, not a Subaru. The Subaru relief valve is set at 85psi.


Yes, you are correct on the RX-8 spec. That's some pretty high oil pressure. shocked
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