Amsoil SSO 0W-30, 1993 Civic, 3,007 miles

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Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster start selling Amsoil and you too may experience large M.P.G. increases.

Note, in the interest of giving credit where it is due, Pablo's and Gary Allan's complete absence from this discussion.
 
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Originally Posted By: glennc
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster start selling Amsoil and you too may experience large M.P.G. increases.

Note, in the interest of giving credit where it is due, Pablo's and Gary Allan's complete absence from this discussion.


Agreed 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great guys from what I've seen.
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest
I'm not an expert on ISO codes, but all of those results appear to be very clean, filter reuse or not.



Tempest,
Here are the particle counts that correspond to the ISO code
17/16/14

>=2 Micron----- 2196
>=5 Micron----- 813
>=10 Micron---- 225
>=15 Micron---- 87
>=25 Micron---- 20
>=50 Micron---- 2
>=100 Micron--- 0
 
And here is the one for 15/15/12

>=2 Micron- 606
>=5 Micron -224
>=10 Micron- 62
>=15 Micron- 24
>=25 Micron- 5
>=50 Micron- 0
>=100 Micron-0
 
So it's easy to see from above, why I have decided to change the filter every oil change. I have seen by-pass systems that had worse particle counts than the EAO has shown.
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Thanks for the numbers. Anyone know what the ISO is for new oil?



I don't know Tempest, but I am thinking that the ISO code for the SSO is very low, what with the new Amsoil filtration system. Perhaps Pablo will break his silence and give us an insight.
 
Here's the latest ISO oil cleanliness code for my 1993 Civic.
SSO 0W-30 and a EAO20 filter. 255,335 miles on car, 3,102 miles on oil.

ISO code 15/14/12

>=2 Micron...580
>=5 Micron...215
>=10 Micron...59
>=15 Micron...23
>=25 Micron,...5
>=50 Micron....0
>=100 Micron...0

I am thinking about testing the M1 oil filter next time to see what the ISO code is and how it compares to the EAO filter.
 
That was an interesting read, thank you Pablo. I noticed the engine tested was pretty low in mileage.
My engine has 256,000 miles on it and well broken in.
I like to experiment with things so I will see how a M1 filter fares vs the Amsoil offering. I am curious to see what if any difference there is in my engine. I think it's safe to say all engines are different in how they respond to oil and filters.
This will take a while, but it is something to look forward to.
 
ISO Oil Cleanliness code 16/15/12
miles on car 258,320
2,985 miles on SSO
EAO20 filter


>=2 Microns..833 PPM
>=5 Microns..308
>=15 Microns..33
>=25 Microns..7
>=50 Microns..0
>=100 Microns.0
 
The next UOA will be with an EAO filter, subsequent tests will be with the M1 filter using the SSO of course. I would like to compare the ISO oil cleanliness in my engine between the EAO and the M1 filter.
 
i can do (near) 45 mpg with the 1.6L engine but only if i drive at 90 km/h... in high-way
meanwhile driving 100% urban i can do 25~27 mpg

...
the GTX mineral oil is not a Fuel Eficcient oil as recomended to D15 and D16 engines, the GTX is too thick

what you are using is equivalent FE
because its ACEA A5/B5-04
and A5/B5 are very thin... viscosity 9~10 Cst at 100ºC => tipical "FE"

i wonder if it would have results in the 1.6 L engine... i think its too thin... and recomended is FE but perhaps A3/B3 C3.. meaning... the viscosity at 100ºC seem to low for our weather... -10ºC to 35ºC

also the TBN 13.2 lol as high as if used in a diesel aplication, engine cleasing is not compromised at all

amsoil will have me for costumer if they sell here in europe at the same prices as there in usa/ca

Cheers (not Shear's :))
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
What are the specs on this Civic ?

2 door, 4 door, hatchback, DX, LX, EX....etc ?



DX, four door, 1.5 liter
 
Some quick math...

Started @ 118k using Amsoil. Now has 256k.

138k worth of oil. Said he used to do 5k and went to 3k. So lets go with 4k OCI.

34 plus oil changes.

Lets go with $6 for a quart of oil (low) and $10 for a oil filter (low) and forget any of his $35-45 UOAs.

6x4 = $24 plus $10 filter per OCI times 34 = $1156 just in oil and filters for 138,000 miles.

Wow. Wish I had some of that action.

If he was using conventional oils and a filter it would have been $2 qt x 4 = $8 for oil and $3 for a filter = $11 times 34 OCi = $374 for the same 138k.

$782 difference.

Harry, Please tell me you are buying your Amsoil from a site sponsor!
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Bill
 
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