Gas with 10% Ethanol, Good or Bad?

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In my area of Canada (near Toronto), Shell V-Power 91 (highest grade of V-power available) is reported to have no ethanol. It says so on a sticker on the pump, assuming that can be believed.

Surprisingly, it does not give me the economy or power of some other fuels which do contain ethanol.
 
A high octane fuel in an engine that doesn't need it could actually have adverse effects in terms of gas mileage. On my old Sentra I would run 93 BP and get poor mileage. 87 was ok, but my mpg peaked using 89 octane.

Perhaps, as I've pondered this before, with a reputably powerful detergent pack suck as V-Power Shell and Amoco/BP Ultimate, if the cleaning agents are loosening up deposits quicker than normal and your mileage suffers while it's burning off crud? I know that it's been said that you need at least two or three tankfuls of premium for it to make a difference, but on used cars I've purchased with a neglected fuel system I can notice the difference within about twenty or thirty miles of driving after a fill-up.
 
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A high octane fuel in an engine that doesn't need it could actually have adverse effects in terms of gas mileage. On my old Sentra I would run 93 BP and get poor mileage. 87 was ok, but my mpg peaked using 89 octane.

Perhaps, as I've pondered this before, with a reputably powerful detergent pack suck as V-Power Shell and Amoco/BP Ultimate, if the cleaning agents are loosening up deposits quicker than normal and your mileage suffers while it's burning off crud? I know that it's been said that you need at least two or three tankfuls of premium for it to make a difference, but on used cars I've purchased with a neglected fuel system I can notice the difference within about twenty or thirty miles of driving after a fill-up.


If your reply is directed at me, my engine and specific software call for 92 with a bare minimum of 89, so I am not not running greater than required spec. I also run FP+ in every tank, SI-1 once in a while and ARX maintenance dose - no crud anywhere in sight
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My engine simply doesn't like my locally available variety of V-Power as much as other fuels. This is a 1998 BMW with an M52 engine over-maintained by an enthusiast. Esso comes out on top in terms of performance and economy, Sunoco Ultra 94 or 92 have good performance but poor economy, V-Power has poor performance and poor ecomony. If there was a contender with poor performance but great economy I wouldn't run it - performance is also important to me.

I do use V-Power in my OPE in general, however, to avoid ethanol.
 
Well, it could be that your motor's just that picky
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Being that I stick primarily with BP/Amoco I don't really notice a difference between fill ups, but I have on occasion run other fuels and noticed a decrease in performance or mileage. I used to think maybe I was just imaging a difference but it does seem to be a real phenomenon.
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