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#1150528 - 05/13/08 04:13 PM Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40
Shup1 Offline


Registered: 02/17/07
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Enclosed are the results from 325 hour run of Amsoil 15w40, this unit has run Delo / Rotella T & LOS since new, unit was flushed with Auto RX for 250 hours. Filters are WIX (air & oil) with off road diesel and Power service or CRC (which ever the farm has on the shelf).

Thoughts....

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#1150541 - 05/13/08 04:37 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
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Looks good.
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#1150550 - 05/13/08 04:46 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
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Love the 4BD1 and the 4BD1-T.
These things go forever.
I'm guessing this is in a generator ?
These engines were used in the mid-late eighties in Land Rover 110's (Defender) in Australia, and it's still considered the best engine Land Rover has ever fitted to a vehicle.

I didn't realise Amsoil used that high a calcium level, as Japanese diesel manufacturers typically call for Ca levels of 3000ppm+, so that's a plus.
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#1150572 - 05/13/08 05:20 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
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Basically looks like virgin oil in the wear department.
Everything else is perfect.

A certain guy in the diesel forum seems to think Amsoil produces high Fe. Doubt he'll post here.

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#1150595 - 05/13/08 05:41 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Pablo]
Gary Allan Offline


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How long are you going to run next OCI? You've got noise ..and low noise at that. This is great. Amsoil diesel oils get little love. It's probably more due to the difficulty most have in doing longer drains.

Did you happen to cut open your Auto-Rx filters? Are you using the maintenance dose?
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#1150605 - 05/13/08 06:08 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Gary Allan]
Shup1 Offline


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Loc: West Coast Florida
What you must remember is that this motor has over 9000 hours on it already, I figure that is about 450k in road miles with little or no rpm changes (2k consistant). So for the readings and age I believe it looks pretty darn good, the oil is still a amber colour (slightly dirty now) but I see no nbeed to add a bypass.
The Auto RX filter change was after first 10 hours, no gunk or buildup...then went an additional 200 / 210 hours with no visible gunk or buildup ( I even checked the used oil and it was not bad). I am not running a maintenance dose due to simple economics, I may however do a treatment every other year??
I hope to get another 325 hours, if so that will extend oil change almost twice....at $3.80/gal for off road it is money in the bank.

I also have this same oil for 2006 CTD..anxious to see results


Edited by Shup1 (05/13/08 06:15 PM)
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#1150870 - 05/14/08 01:31 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
pickled Offline


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Let's face it...Amsoil AME is a rock star for the price! If you can sign up for a commercial account with Amsoil it is pretty darn inexpensive for the performance.
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#1151011 - 05/14/08 08:38 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: pickled]
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Good gosh, what a great looking UOA.
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#1151022 - 05/14/08 08:55 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: LateArrivalforLSU]
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Awesome!
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#1151032 - 05/14/08 09:06 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: -Clayton-]
Harley Anderson Offline


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Loc: State College, PA
Amazing uoa, just goes to show you what is the easiest service on a motor and oil. At 325 hrs with my average speed being 39.8 this would be like a uoa with almsot 13k miles on it. I would think 12-1400 hrs wouldn't be out of hand with some makeup oil along the way.
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#1151040 - 05/14/08 09:18 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Harley Anderson]
pickled Offline


Registered: 02/14/08
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Loc: The Rocky Mountains
Add a bypass filter and his grandkids might be the next ones to change the oil...
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#1152581 - 05/16/08 09:35 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: pickled]
Shup1 Offline


Registered: 02/17/07
Posts: 348
Loc: West Coast Florida
pickled...I thought about it but with the setup on this motor it would leave opening for mice and critters to enter the area...
The oil appears very clean, this motor setrup does not turn the oil black like the newer versions, as you see the soot level was nil and I will probably do a particle count next time for giggles...
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#1152628 - 05/16/08 10:41 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Pablo]
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 Originally Posted By: Pablo
Basically looks like virgin oil in the wear department.
Everything else is perfect.

A certain guy in the diesel forum seems to think Amsoil produces high Fe. Doubt he'll post here.


Possibly they got the sample mistaken for a virgin sample of AME at the lab...


Edited by D-Roc (05/16/08 10:48 AM)
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#1152769 - 05/16/08 02:22 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: D-Roc]
Shup1 Offline


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Loc: West Coast Florida
Hard to miss my samples...They are usually labeled well.

stirring the pot are you?

:)
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#1154093 - 05/18/08 08:49 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Harley Anderson]
wjdell Offline


Registered: 02/03/07
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Loc: Florida
I think that has to be a record UOA. 325 hours thats about 13k miles for me. If its a GENSET running under a consistent load that would explain the UOA. If it has a by pass system then the wear was probably a bit higher than the UOA would indicate. Which double nothing is still nothing. I take thats AME 15W40, that is a good oil. I have seen things can kinda flip quickly so be careful and good luck. I am leaving my oil in my GENSET two years, it probably could go three years.

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#1154616 - 05/19/08 05:24 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: wjdell]
Shup1 Offline


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Loc: West Coast Florida
That 325 hours was probablyin 6 months or so, I am trying to go to the 1000 hour mark but will re-sample in 325 more hours.There is no bypass unit in the setup, since we have a problem with critters chewing on wiring I have not opened the cabinet with external bypass.
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#1245884 - 09/29/08 07:50 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
Shup1 Offline


Registered: 02/17/07
Posts: 348
Loc: West Coast Florida
Here is the newest UOA...

Unit has approx 600 hours on same oil (Amsoil 15w40)
1 1/2 gal oil added during use.
Wix cart filters
Wix Air filters
Off road diesel w/Diesel Kleen

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#1245961 - 09/29/08 09:41 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
pickled Offline


Registered: 02/14/08
Posts: 2098
Loc: The Rocky Mountains
Jeesh you could probably easily roll another 600 hours with just top up oil!
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#1246098 - 09/29/08 01:12 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: pickled]
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Loc: Louisiana
Man, Isuzu makes good engines AND the Amsoil is doing a good of protecting it.

I'm with pickled, double the usage and just use top off oil to replenish the TBN.
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#1246329 - 09/29/08 06:31 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Harley Anderson]
Shup1 Offline


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Posts: 348
Loc: West Coast Florida
We are figuring 50 mph, the machine runs 98% @ 2k rpm....

I am working on a 1200 hour run before we change...that would be 60k and would be quite cost efficient
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#1247758 - 10/01/08 05:01 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
Pablo Offline


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There is no wear.

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#1248801 - 10/02/08 09:53 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Pablo]
pickled Offline


Registered: 02/14/08
Posts: 2098
Loc: The Rocky Mountains
Definitely a statement...not a question. Me like AME.
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#1248898 - 10/03/08 12:32 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Pablo]
Doug Hillary Offline


Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 4866
Loc: Airlie Beach Australia
Hi,
Pablo - You said:

"There is no wear."

We do not know if the 1.5 gals topup has been factored in to the UOA result. It is not mentioned in the Lab. report!

However, these engines wear well on almost any suitable lubricant!
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#1248945 - 10/03/08 05:31 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Doug Hillary]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
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Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Well yes if that much oil was added it probably helped the TBN. And of course if Amsoil did well, it's because the engine always does well regardless.

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#1248959 - 10/03/08 06:19 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Pablo]
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Hi,
Pablo - No need for paranoia - just the details - you made the comments I just put up a trace of reality!
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#1248961 - 10/03/08 06:23 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Doug Hillary]
Pablo Offline


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Yep, no need for paranoia at all.

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#1249081 - 10/03/08 09:43 AM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Pablo]
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The Amsoil 15/40 and the straight 30 are IMO the best oils Amsoil makes well proven over the years, no fancy hype they just plain work .
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#1249485 - 10/03/08 06:22 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Steve S]
pickled Offline


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Loc: The Rocky Mountains
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#1249500 - 10/03/08 06:46 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: pickled]
Shup1 Offline


Registered: 02/17/07
Posts: 348
Loc: West Coast Florida
Typically the oil add is as follows..

2 qts for oil filter...
4 qts over 300 hours.....we have a guy who thinks the oil level needs to be right up to the top of the line...

Actually we used 2 gallons per 200 hours with dino and before I used the Auto RX...
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#1257392 - 10/14/08 06:55 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shup1]
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Loc: Florida
What is the sump capacity - this is a 4 cylinder, correct.

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#1258980 - 10/16/08 06:28 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: wjdell]
Shup1 Offline


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Loc: West Coast Florida
3 gallons...and yes it is a 4 cyl


Edited by Shup1 (10/16/08 06:28 PM)
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#1259904 - 10/17/08 09:26 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: D-Roc]
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 Originally Posted By: D-Roc
 Originally Posted By: Pablo
Basically looks like virgin oil in the wear department.
Everything else is perfect.

A certain guy in the diesel forum seems to think Amsoil produces high Fe. Doubt he'll post here.


Possibly they got the sample mistaken for a virgin sample of AME at the lab...

LOL LOL why dont you try rottella now? LOL LOL!!!!!!
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#1262133 - 10/20/08 10:22 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: lazaro]
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Loc: Florida
Even if you factor in the large sump and the make up oil this uoa is comparable to my VW having a TWM "total wear metals" count of 33 ppm in 23400 miles. Thats wear of 1.4 ppm TWM per 1000 miles of use. You may die before the engine does.

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#1264754 - 10/23/08 10:28 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: wjdell]
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What oil filter does this engine take? How big is it?

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#1271068 - 10/31/08 03:48 PM Re: Isuzu 4BD1_Amsoil 15w40 [Re: Shaman]
Shup1 Offline


Registered: 02/17/07
Posts: 348
Loc: West Coast Florida
Uses the cartridge style...

WIX 51745..all we have evr used too.
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