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#3076826 - 07/26/13 10:41 AM Re: B20 Biodiesel...?? [Re: fins]
snofarmer Offline

Registered: 04/01/12
Posts: 25
Loc: MN
I'm in MN.
We have up to B20.
All diesel fuel in MN is at least B5 by law.
Bio fuel does have more lubricity than reg diesel fuel does.

In the winter the % of BIO falls as gelling is a problem,
so there is more % of bio in the summer fuel than the winter fuel.

All cumins engines are approved to use up to B20 pre DPF/emission trucks can run a much higher % .

#3358945 - 05/01/14 02:36 PM Re: B20 Biodiesel...?? [Re: fins]
ironman_gq Offline

Registered: 04/30/14
Posts: 488
Loc: MN
Check your manuals before going to B20, most manufacturers allow up to B10 and a lot of guys get away with running it but higher % of bio is hard on rubber parts in the fuel system and can make fuel lines soft.

#3375035 - 05/18/14 07:22 PM Re: B20 Biodiesel...?? [Re: fins]
TiredTrucker Offline

Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 2505
Loc: Central Iowa
I have regularly used bio blends from 5% up to 15% year round in the upper midwest for several years. I regularly run thru Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana and bio is the name of the game are virtually all truck stops nowadays. I do have occasion fuel filter issues in the winter, since the fuel filter specs for my engine are about 7 micron. Gelling is not really an issue, but the denser bio will fill the filter media a little sooner in extreme cold. I have a glass bowl to see how much of the filter has been used, once fuel reaches the top, time to change. I go thru about 21,000 gallons of biodiesel a year and it works fine.

I only have some issues when ambient temps get into the the serious sub zero range. I have never had issues above 0F. As was stated, bio really spikes diesel with lubricity that was lost when we got LSD and ULSD fuel. A B2 blend will add back the lubricity lost going from LSD to ULSD, and a B5 blend will add back all the lubricity we have lost over the years.

One caveat with biodiesel. It has a little higher flash and vapor point than petro diesel. It has caused, in some instances, a slight fuel dilution situation to occur. One needs to watch things a little closer when using high blends of bio. There is always a little fuel that slips by the rings, and normally the internal heat will keep it in vapor and it will blow out or recycle via PCV. If temps do not run high enough in an engine, the bio can coalesce and build up in the sump.
In order to know what is bad, you have to know what is good. The question them becomes, what is the source of knowing what is good?

#3781061 - 07/05/15 10:38 PM Re: B20 Biodiesel...?? [Re: fins]
nyumski Offline

Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 139
Loc: INA
B20 means biodiesel 20% and 80% petrodiesel right? I think you should add some more additive to your tank to maintain your fuel pump and the tank. According to article on internet (i think you can find it on wiki maybe) if biodiesel which will be added more than 5% (correct me if im wrong), there will be sludge that is caused by the bactery. In my place, according to the regulation, biodiesel is added approx 15% to petrodiesel and it is a must to add some additive. For now, im using scheaffer Diesel Treat 2000 as my long additive with maintenance dosage. Maybe you should try it. U can find the TDS and MSDS on the website.
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#3791647 - 07/15/15 09:34 PM Re: B20 Biodiesel...?? [Re: nyumski]
fins Offline

Registered: 07/19/06
Posts: 85
Loc: ohio
Wow.....I started this post this 9 years ago .......

Still getting replies.

#3828540 - 08/20/15 09:27 PM Re: B20 Biodiesel...?? [Re: fins]
TiredTrucker Offline

Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 2505
Loc: Central Iowa
nyumski, having to add something with higher blends of biodiesel is internet folklore. I have run biodiesel blends from 5% to 15% for several years. No adverse affect and no sludge from bacteria setting up home in my fuel tanks. Over 20,000 gallons of the stuff per year and no adverse affects of any kind.

To be fair, higher blends of biodiesel need more treatment to prevent gelling in cold weather. But even then, it is not that bad of a problem. I run biodiesel blends year round in the Upper Midwest. The Schaeffer is a good product, but for lubricity, bio exceeds anything Schaeffer can add to the fuel. The Schaeffer does do a good job keeping injectors running good.
In order to know what is bad, you have to know what is good. The question them becomes, what is the source of knowing what is good?

#3895098 - 10/23/15 05:02 PM Re: B20 Biodiesel...?? [Re: fins]
used_0il Offline

Registered: 03/06/14
Posts: 1184
Loc: canada
Runs "Like a broken record" my dad used to say.

Now it just keeps going and going like the Amsoil Bunny, or something like that.

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