In the past I always changed out the factory fill oil of my vehicles at 500, 2500 and 5000 where I would begin OCI of 5000 miles. My new Honda recommends leaving the factory fill until the OLM tells me to change it. Dealer said 5000 and bring it in. What do all of you think about this? I worked at a Honda motorcycle dealership and the first oil change at that time was 600 miles and that is why I changed out the factory fill at 500 miles in my cars. Are the new factory fill oil different and need to stay in for a reason?
1st oil change, OLM or miles?
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I have a new Avalon and the dealer said to do the first oil change at 5,000 miles. That is what the owners manual says to do.
I am going to change at 1,000-2,000 miles with dino oil and filter. Then at 5,000 go with synthetic oil.
40ford
I am going to change at 1,000-2,000 miles with dino oil and filter. Then at 5,000 go with synthetic oil.
40ford
I use the KISS principal and follow the owners manual to the "t".
How can you go wrong, especially when you are protecting a warranty?
How can you go wrong, especially when you are protecting a warranty?
I changed out my factory fill in my Honda at 4k. The OLM said I still had 70% oil life left. My commute is mostly highway and it appears my OLM is suggesting about 10k OCIs. Would some say that's a waste?....sure; but I'd rather error on the side of caution.
Originally Posted By: Dyoel182
I'm honestly not debating, just wondering why you'd waste an oil change and be in such a hurry to get fresh oil in there when a used oil analysis would tell you it had plenty of life left.
I can understand that. What I meant with debate, some say change it out, others say leave it in. It is all personal preferance, whatever makes YOU happy.
I'm honestly not debating, just wondering why you'd waste an oil change and be in such a hurry to get fresh oil in there when a used oil analysis would tell you it had plenty of life left.
I can understand that. What I meant with debate, some say change it out, others say leave it in. It is all personal preferance, whatever makes YOU happy.
Trust the OLM then get a UOA to ease any doubts.
Originally Posted By: bigalw
Dealer said 5000 and bring it in. What do all of you think about this?
I think that's HOGWASH. Change the oil out every 4 months; whether it has 1 mile or 5000 miles.
Dealer said 5000 and bring it in. What do all of you think about this?
I think that's HOGWASH. Change the oil out every 4 months; whether it has 1 mile or 5000 miles.
Meh, I disagree with that. In my old car I'd always just wait til 3k to change it, regardless of time. Sometimes it took 10 months for me to get that much mileage, and the car ran fine and didn't burn any oil at 128k when I sold it. That was just with conventional Valvoline, too. No sludge or varnish either.
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I didn't even write the mileage down last time because I knew I'd still probably be under 2000 miles at the end of 4 months anyway. Is that a waste of oil? Probably so, but to me oil is expendable and I want to keep the engine clean with minimal wear.
Patman
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On a new car that has an OLM I would still do the first oil change sooner, I'd do it at 50% oil life. As usual I'd get a UOA done and depending on how things looked, I'd decide on whether or not to do the next oil change at 0% oil life, or perhaps I'd go to 25% on the second one.
JHZR2
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5000, IMO is a good oil change point. Long enough so that the chemistry in the factory fill, if special, can do what it was meant to do (its not magic), but not so long that the oil can get too old, sheared, diluted, etc.
JMH
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I vote for 5000 miles too.
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