Having a single user (have there been a few? if so add s on the end) that posted a pic of an oil pan after sitting for a while is hardly proof of an issue either. It's no different that the K&N battle threads here - one person posts a ****ty UOA w/r to silicon and now all K&Ns ruin engines.
Heh. Trav's one of the most respected members on the board. Maybe try searching for the thread and read it before you bash the data point. He started off wanting to like it and had good initial results.
I've read the post/searched/seen it thanks - no bashing here, it's a datapoint and as we should all know, single data point don't make a dataset. So well respected member equals can't question? On the K&N, this isn't the post for it (there are plenty in the air filter section) clearly but I have great UOAs with a K&N on multiple vehicles and have never had a MAF issue so how does that work? My single data point has as much clout as the others that show they cause issues.
Yes, it fell out in your pan and that is a data point and is fact. To say that anyone who uses MoS2 will have fall out and it will remain as a sludge in your oil pan and not get re-suspended is not a fact based on this single situation which was the point of my comments. Didn't your car sit for a while and only get moved a short distance before checking? What if you had driven it 50 miles? I used it once just as a why not. The oil that came out shimmered from the grey MoS2 which was clearly in the oil. I'm going with there isn't a sludge in my oil pan from this on a daily-driven vehicle. I don't disagree with you in that this isn't really necessary in a modern engine with modern oils.
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what does that mean?
FCP has a 100% replacement guarantee on everythign they sell (a few exceptions) and that actually includes returning your used oil from one of their kits. You buy a LM kit for $60. Use the kit. Buy a new LM kit. Return the old kit (I use a USPS large flat-rate box for $21) and get your $60 back. FCP's return policy w/r to oil has been discussed ad-nauseum here on BITOG in various posts and in all corners of the car enthusiast interwebs. You can go to their site and read up on it or watch their YouTube videos where they show oil being returned. TLDR: yes it's real, no FCP won't go out of business by offering this, yes it's ok to ship/mail used oil (not hazardous), no it's not shady or taking advantage, yes, FCP understands this and allows it the replacement of motor oil.
Check the oil analysis at ~29K for Ceratec and ~35K for MoS2 (right-most one, there are two as I did a duplicate that interval...one before and one after using LM's Proline engine flush. Analysis for this report is for Molygen so that has the tungsten-based "MFC" in it - you have to request that one/pay extra for it.Beside the old style MoS2 additiv, LM carries two more modern addtives:
Motor Protect, wich contains mainly Tungsten, and Ceratec, wich contain a mix of Molybden and Boron.
We all now that Tungtsen, Molybden and Boron ar not Hokus-Pokus, no snake oil, but very good anti wear addtives.
It is up to you to decide if you want to use it. LM recomends a dosage of 6% ceratec to the engine oil; thats a little bit to much, around 3% should be enough.
Here is a VOA where you can see how much Moly and Boron is added to a oil by adding roughly 4% ceratec:
10W-40 Penrite + 10W-30 Redline + LM Ceratec - Ölanalysen und Ölanalytik für Motor und Getriebe
Ich habe die Analyse meines Mix bekommen. 5 Liter Penrite Racing 10 Tenths 10w-40 1,9 Liter Redline 10w-30 300 ml LM Ceratec
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