E15/E30/E50 and E85
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E30 & E50? Never heard of that.
Saw this too in Wisconsin back in March of this year when there for a visit.
Station was in Platteville in Southwestern Wisconsin.
Station was in Platteville in Southwestern Wisconsin.
Now, this could make you wonder which stations out there aren't labeling which pumps have over 10% volume.
What's the cost like for the different blends?
When E85 was really cheap I manually mixed to about E30. Lost a couple mpg, but in $/mi it was cheaper. Didn't encounter any issues.
When E85 was really cheap I manually mixed to about E30. Lost a couple mpg, but in $/mi it was cheaper. Didn't encounter any issues.
I don't think it's something you would notice right away......more likely degradation over time......
Though, I do hear Ethanol makes a very good fuel injector cleaner
It'll "dry up" water in your tank....but the fuel pump and fuel LINES hate the dry corn ethanol, since it's so dry, and has very little "lube" left to it.
I drive a classic, daily drive, that is, and I've started early, adding my own "lube" to the oil, every fill up, if I miss a fill, it's definitely every other.....usually TCW-3 or MMO at 1-3 oz. per gallon of fuel (no more than 4 oz. per fill up).
Though, I do hear Ethanol makes a very good fuel injector cleaner
It'll "dry up" water in your tank....but the fuel pump and fuel LINES hate the dry corn ethanol, since it's so dry, and has very little "lube" left to it.I drive a classic, daily drive, that is, and I've started early, adding my own "lube" to the oil, every fill up, if I miss a fill, it's definitely every other.....usually TCW-3 or MMO at 1-3 oz. per gallon of fuel (no more than 4 oz. per fill up).
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
I don't think it's something you would notice right away......more likely degradation over time......
Though, I do hear Ethanol makes a very good fuel injector cleaner It'll "dry up" water in your tank....but the fuel pump and fuel LINES hate the dry corn ethanol, since it's so dry, and has very little "lube" left to it.
I drive a classic, daily drive, that is, and I've started early, adding my own "lube" to the oil, every fill up, if I miss a fill, it's definitely every other.....usually TCW-3 or MMO at 1-3 oz. per gallon of fuel (no more than 4 oz. per fill up).
Don't you mean to the gas? ...and did you miss per 10 gallons of fuel or really mean 1-3 OUNCES of MMO or TC-W3 per gallon?
Just trying to clarify for others that may read this thread.
Otherwise, running a lube additive before you fill up may make running E-85 more 'do-able', yet there is still a lot of caution and skepticism regarding years of use if it truly does have the 'drying' effect. Thus, the entire market for a desire to use an UCL.
ADDED: Oh, and right on about it causing a CEL etc, if your injectors aren't bigger than stock for a non-flex vehicles without the proper compression ratio etc, to truly utilize E-85 regardless of 'drying' effects or not. Definitely would not run this long-term is pre-OBDII nor a non-flex vehicle unless steps were taken to tune and decipher areas of potential degradation first; with perhaps an UCL on top of that!
I don't think it's something you would notice right away......more likely degradation over time......
Though, I do hear Ethanol makes a very good fuel injector cleaner
It'll "dry up" water in your tank....but the fuel pump and fuel LINES hate the dry corn ethanol, since it's so dry, and has very little "lube" left to it.I drive a classic, daily drive, that is, and I've started early, adding my own "lube" to the oil, every fill up, if I miss a fill, it's definitely every other.....usually TCW-3 or MMO at 1-3 oz. per gallon of fuel (no more than 4 oz. per fill up).
Don't you mean to the gas? ...and did you miss per 10 gallons of fuel or really mean 1-3 OUNCES of MMO or TC-W3 per gallon?
Just trying to clarify for others that may read this thread.
Otherwise, running a lube additive before you fill up may make running E-85 more 'do-able', yet there is still a lot of caution and skepticism regarding years of use if it truly does have the 'drying' effect. Thus, the entire market for a desire to use an UCL.
ADDED: Oh, and right on about it causing a CEL etc, if your injectors aren't bigger than stock for a non-flex vehicles without the proper compression ratio etc, to truly utilize E-85 regardless of 'drying' effects or not. Definitely would not run this long-term is pre-OBDII nor a non-flex vehicle unless steps were taken to tune and decipher areas of potential degradation first; with perhaps an UCL on top of that!
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