I seem to recall there was "official" documentation on Fram's claimed 99% at 20 micron value. One could ask logically that a "claim" is not a "fact". Sorry if I should know this.
Documentation on Fram Ultra Filters
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I believe they reference 2-3 filters & then say something to the effect of "Equivalent" filters. If you click on either lines of their filters it will read in small writing below. They are testing according to ISO 4548-12 for particles greater than 20 microns witch is an industry accepted test measurement so it's a bit more than a "Claim".
"*FRAM Group testing of average filter efficiency of TG8A, TG3387A and TG4967 or equivalent FRAM TG or XG models under ISO 4548-12 for particles greater than 20 microns."
https://www.fram.com/products/oil-filters
Here's TG's for example:
https://www.fram.com/products/oil-filters/tough-guard/
Here is an image I saved from the other topic when they first launched the new line.
"*FRAM Group testing of average filter efficiency of TG8A, TG3387A and TG4967 or equivalent FRAM TG or XG models under ISO 4548-12 for particles greater than 20 microns."
https://www.fram.com/products/oil-filters
Here's TG's for example:
https://www.fram.com/products/oil-filters/tough-guard/
Here is an image I saved from the other topic when they first launched the new line.
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The XG has always been 99%+ at 20 microns, as was stated by Jay (Motorking) on here when the filter first came out.
There's so many inaccuracies in this, I don't even know where to start... Synthetic blend BAKED onto a metal screen?? There's something baked, here, it's First Brand's marketer brains... The only thing true on this list is "increased production capacity"!
Yeah, I'm not sure who made that but it was some of the only material I could find at that time so I saved it. It might be incorrect info though & that is not what I would like to push. The baking part does sound silly but we know they were wire backed. We all know for certain this was First Brands way to increase production & decrease cost. I do wonder if some filters did get more media though (Higher pleat count).
The media area went up on the Ultras when the media got changed to the non-wire backed design. Increasing the media area helps decrease dP vs flow, helps increase efficiency and helps increase holding capacity.
Ascent Filtration lab posted a results test of a few premium oil filters on this forum, showing the OG Ultra was superior to the others that claim the same thing.
Would you all like to see ISO 4548-12 Oil Filter Lab Testing Comparison, Efficiency & Capacity, Pressure vs Flow, Bubble Point, and Burst?
I have this as a “watched” thread, so if you do happen to start a new one, could you put a note or link in this one to direct followers to the new thread? Thanks!! Yes, no problem I can do that.
bobistheoilguy.com
Skim the thread for more information.
Thanks! I'll assume that Strength & holding capacity were important for the new ultra media. Was it me or did you notice that fram was using their old filters for the increased mileage rating at first? Example: I while back...I noticed the TG on my truck went from 10k to 15k mileage rating, on the box, but it was the exact same filter as before. Eventually, though they started stuffing the new filters in the box that had the new media.
I don't recall exactly when, but quite some time ago Fram increased the mileage rating on all of the PH, TG and XG filters. The PH went from 5K to 10K (silicone ADBV added at that time too), TG went from 10K to 15K and the XG went from 15K to 20K. You could pull up the Way Back Time Machine and find about when those ratings changed.
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The XG/Ultra, way back when it was called the "Xtended Guard" (which is where the prefix came from) was only rated 7000 miles-and it arguably was a better filter than the new unreinforced "20K" Ultra. Yes, more media "area', but without the 2 layer depth filtration of the original! I have ran the OG old style Ultra to 20K (actually 19,700 miles), and it literally looked like it could have gone twice as far easily-the new Ultra is kind of a joke compared to the old one, in my opinion, it's really no tougher or better than any synthetic blend media filter. Even the RP & Endurance don't have the same media as the OG did-the original Ultra was really only limited by how long the (rather thin & poorly painted) can could last.
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Which of course is necessary when you move away from a media with less depth. The cross-section of the full synthetic media was pretty impressive, and wildly, there was a lot more of it in the can than there is for a comparable RP/AMSOIL filter.
The OG XG was a freakin' steal if we are being honest.
I slightly knew about that "wayback machine" trick but never really used it. That is fantastic! I'm surfing Fram right now.
Here's one from 2010 & the Xtended Guard was rated for 10k & 97% back then.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100102050834/http://www.fram.com/oil-filters/xtended-guard.php
Here's Feb 2020 mentioning the new PH w/silicone
http://web.archive.org/web/20200210133318/https://www.fram.com/
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