And the '09 Indy 500 Pace Car is......
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I'm surprised that they didn't choose the ZR-1 Corvette.
Its a shame that GM days are numbered.
Its a shame that GM days are numbered.
Well, they already sell Corvettes and now they are going to "try" and sell Camaros again. Maybe GM should cut their losses and just make Corvettes, Camaros, and Suburbans.
I'll have to agree with you, Johnny.
Maybe add Malibu, that seems to be selling well judging by the numbers I see on the road - I hope it's a profitable model.
Too late for Suburban, though; the Janesville, WI plant is closed. Brings a tear to my eye.
Maybe add Malibu, that seems to be selling well judging by the numbers I see on the road - I hope it's a profitable model.
Too late for Suburban, though; the Janesville, WI plant is closed. Brings a tear to my eye.
Closing Janesville was a sad affair for sure. What other plants made the Suburban? Of all the large vehicles GM made/makes, the Suburban was the best, as for as I'm concerned.
Now that makes a lot of since. Close down the plant in WI and leave the one open in Mexico. Shame on them. I thought someone on here said they also made them at the Arlington, TX plant. Maybe not.
In their reorganization plan, they should close down Mexico and reopen Janesville.
I'm not getting all political here, however this does connect to the GM problems. Take the average worker in the US that is effected by free trade, give him the info above about GM shutting a US plant down, and leaving a plant open in Mexico, I sure wouldn't buy from them... and shame on them for the commercials/media they shoved at us in the past about American made cars ( I seem to remember a commercial from them a couple years ago about buying american made cars). I don't have anything against GM(used to have old hotrod Chevy's, and nothing else existed as far as brand) , and in all reality it's nothing to do with the above post from me, more probably from the economy just taking a plunder down, and I'm one to talk as I drive a Honda (however I think it's made in the USA). I still say shame on GM for shutting down a US plant leaving the Mexico plant open, all of the problems these companies are having I have ZERO sympathy, the exact amount they had for the US workers when they shut down US plants while moving across the border/over seas, now they are reaping what they have sowed in my humble opinion.
What the "Big 3" are doing is, IMO, deplorable. Like lots of the mega-corporations (banks, insurance, defense contractors, etc.) they're taking full advantage of this world economic crisis to get what they want. In the case of the banks and insurance co.'s, it's free taxpayer money. The defense contractors get no-bid, blank check open-ended contracts. And then, there's the auto industry. GM, Ford and Chrysler are not really that bad off compared to others in their industry, when you look at their world-wide operations. We all know that in Europe, Asia, etc., they build some of the finest sub and compact cars in the world - while we are stuck with the big antiques here in the homeland. No surprise. Their reluctance to re-tool the US plants to meet current consumer demand is no big surprise. While they state that they must meet "short termed shareholder value," they've been allowing this domestic market ship to slowly sink. I'm no genius, but all of those MBA's in Detroit must, at one time or another, looked at sales figures for the Toyota Prius, Honda Civic, etc., compared to their Crown Vic and Explorers......
What they were waiting for was a situation of pending economic distaster (which has arrived.) It's during this period that everyone, under the guise of critical management, gets what they want. In the case of the automakers, it's three-fold. Step 1: Get a mega $$ taxpayer handout for basically doing nothing. Step 2: Come back in the spring for the second $$ handout. And finally, step 3 (the most important
Convince Congress that the handouts didn't work and that bankrupcy procedures are the only way out. This, infact, is the original objective: Get into bankrupcy procedures which is the only way to relieve the corp. of it's "ironclad" obligations to the UAW and to retirees.
I'm certainly no Socialist - I even volunteered for a combat assignment in VietNam in '67, but in my senior years, have been taking an objective look at our country and those who, until recently, had taken control. I just finished Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine (The Rise of Disaster Capitalism)"
Like everyone on this site, I'm a car enthusiast. I've restored, raced and owned just about every performance car you could name (& no, I didn't inherit a fortune.) But, we'd better start changing our habits and the way we look at things if we intend to leave our kids something that even roughly resembles the life we had.
What they were waiting for was a situation of pending economic distaster (which has arrived.) It's during this period that everyone, under the guise of critical management, gets what they want. In the case of the automakers, it's three-fold. Step 1: Get a mega $$ taxpayer handout for basically doing nothing. Step 2: Come back in the spring for the second $$ handout. And finally, step 3 (the most important
Convince Congress that the handouts didn't work and that bankrupcy procedures are the only way out. This, infact, is the original objective: Get into bankrupcy procedures which is the only way to relieve the corp. of it's "ironclad" obligations to the UAW and to retirees.I'm certainly no Socialist - I even volunteered for a combat assignment in VietNam in '67, but in my senior years, have been taking an objective look at our country and those who, until recently, had taken control. I just finished Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine (The Rise of Disaster Capitalism)"
Like everyone on this site, I'm a car enthusiast. I've restored, raced and owned just about every performance car you could name (& no, I didn't inherit a fortune.) But, we'd better start changing our habits and the way we look at things if we intend to leave our kids something that even roughly resembles the life we had.
Ouch! Just re-read my post - didn't mean to come off like some Bozo. Guess I was just venting my frustrations, but not in the proper place.
Bill.
Bill.
Originally Posted By: Johnny
In their reorganization plan, they should close down Mexico and reopen Janesville.
That should be a priority requirement for any auto maker that's getting taxpayer money to stay afloat. Any company that closes domestic plants and keeps overseas plants going to produce models sold in the US, doesn't get any money. Period.
In their reorganization plan, they should close down Mexico and reopen Janesville.
That should be a priority requirement for any auto maker that's getting taxpayer money to stay afloat. Any company that closes domestic plants and keeps overseas plants going to produce models sold in the US, doesn't get any money. Period.
And no bone-uses for the management that wrecked the company...that goes for AIG, too.
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